What "migrated faction" options are there?

I've noted there are a few mods and AARs around the idea of taking one faction, and migrating them to somewhere else to represent a faction not featured in the game's roster.

For example there's several around for Syracusan and Massiliote factions played with one of the Hellenic factions. Talk of a Galatian game by migrating Arverni or Aedui to Asia Minor. I think someone talked about the Kingdom of Pergamum as another Hellenic option.

I thought you could do a Numidian/Mauretanian one by migrating the Saba to north Africa.

What other ones have people thought of, and which have people actually played out?

I assume u could put the KH in the Caffa area and then get your ass owned by the sauromatae. Or put a hellenic faction on Kyrene. Ireland seems to have a whole lot of unique units as well.

Bosphoran Kingdom is indeed another Hellenic option. Or Rhodes.

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Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

Or Rhodes.

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This one will sound obvious but KH in Taras is a pretty good choice. I've also been experimenting with Romani in Spain and that's pretty fun(if you don't mind not having any core units until the Marians.)

I've never tried this myself, but I suppose you could make Carthage become the Phonecian faction.

You'd be steamwalled.

Anyway most migrations are only meaningful for hellenic factions, migrating with nomads is a big no no, the barbarians could go to the baltics, asia minor or ireland, the romans wouldnt bring much fun anywhere else and the same goes for carthage, though they could use the territory of the ptolemai, only problem is that the ptolemies are sitting there.

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Originally Posted by The Celt

I've also been experimenting with Romani in Spain and that's pretty fun(if you don't mind not having any core units until the Marians.)

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I've been wondering about this. Didn't the Romans use quite a lot of Iberians as allies and auxiliaries? Yet in most cities you can only recruit Milites and Caetrati.

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Originally Posted by pantsukki

I've been wondering about this. Didn't the Romans use quite a lot of Iberians as allies and auxiliaries? Yet in most cities you can only recruit Milites and Caetrati.

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They did, but mercenaries work perfectly fine. After all Iberian and Celtic peoples had a lot of experience hiring their strength out as such.

I've put (using Force Diplomacy) KH in Cyrene and the Arverni in Ankyra they're performing quite well.

Well, you could basically migrate anywhere.
I´ve always wanted to try to migrate as Carthage to Sidon and survive against all odds, but it seems near impossible (the new Saka-Rauka VH/VH?).
KH can indeed go almost everywhere, Emporion and Sinope are two I believe have not been mentioned.
Moving as Baktrians or Saka-Rauka to India could be fun, especially if you only recruited Indian units (and no Indo-Hellen ones).
Luso´s to Ireland could work.
Sweboz to Bastarnolandam to play as the Bastarne, though you´d have much the same units.
Gauls to Odrysai and Getai to Bithynia or Byzantion.
Epeiros migration to become Illyrians, not a long migration but you can´t really recruit any Epirote units in Illyria.
Sab´yn to Axum or Meroe.
I love Quintus Sertorius idea about Sab´yn as Numidian though.

What about Casse to Galatia? That would be the new Saka-Rauka VH/VH.

I've put the Casse in Bratosporios using force diplomacy. And it rulez!

Would you use the Sab'yn to play as the Nabataens?

I think I'm actually going to take the Casse to Scorcouw and pretend they are the Scordisci... A Celtic Eastern Europe beckons. :yes:

Just as an aside, when you guys do a migration campaign do you cheat to get there or do you travel there yourselves?

I prefer to move the army across the map myself, it makes it feel more epic.

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Just as an aside, when you guys do a migration campaign do you cheat to get there or do you travel there yourselves?

I prefer to move the army across the map myself, it makes it feel more epic.

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Well, in my case I think I'm just going to mod the game in the beginning. I basically want to play as the Scordisci, and the Casse will become them. :yes:

I did that with KH in 1.0 but it CTD'd when I tried to start.

Carthage in Israel maybe

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

Carthage in Israel maybe

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Not Saba? Surely that's less disruptive of the existing factions?

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Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

Not Saba? Surely that's less disruptive of the existing factions?

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I thought Carthaginians and Israelis are both the same race. And I thought adding Carthage in there will make the new Israel surrounded by 3 countrys which might be fun

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I thought Carthaginians and Israelis are both the same race. And I thought adding Carthage in there will make the new Israel surrounded by 3 countrys which might be fun

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Saba are Semitic too, as far as the game's culture traits go, and using them doesn't involve removing one of the game's major powers.

Yeah and the ones who are gonna take North Africa are the Ptolemies, it would just make them incredibly overpowered.

Here's a slightly different question. If I were to "create" new factions in my Roman game, by migrating factions I would otherwise have destroyed elsewhere, who would be the best fit for where?

Basically in 167BC I'll be taking Epeiros' lands off them. But that doesn't have to be the end of an independent faction, I could move them to some smaller kingdom.

Same goes with Makedonia, Koinon Hellenon and Qarthadast in 146BC.

Some places I'm thinking could be such independent kingdoms are Kyrene, Krete, Rhodes, Bithynia, the Bosphorous, and Byzantion for the Hellenics. I'm thinking perhaps leave Koinon Hellenon in Rhodes. Which leaves two other options.

Kyrene I think should be a definite, because it persisted for a long time on it's own. Besides I don't want the Ptolemies getting it eventually.

Makedonia as Bithynia? They've got a pretty good roster there, and I think they're aggressive enough to retain a hold of it.

Nabataea, Phoenicia and even Meroe might work for ex-Qarthadast.

On another tangent, would it be worthwhile giving the Lusotanii a province in Ireland, to give the Casse some competition?

Thoughts?

lusotanii on ireland should defenitley work, factions like epeiros and kh have numberous options, but im afraid that carthage has little to no alternatives, maybe u could put them close to the Saba? They got the same culture after all.

One should totally do a migration of the Arche Seleukeia to Ireland.

Cant really figure a good reason for that. But it might be fun for a fanboi like u and I dont really see a problem with it.

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Cant really figure a good reason for that. But it might be fun for a fanboi like u and I dont really see a problem with it.

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I sense sarcasm in Haxe's voice:juggle2:

Sweboz to Bastarnolandam = Bastarnoz. Puts you into more direct contact with other factions, and also causes a race for the Carpathian area between yourself and the Getai. Fun stuff.

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I sense sarcasm in Haxe's voic

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The force is STRONG in you, young one.

By the way, has anyone ever migrated a faction to Ptolemais-Theron, f.ex? To represent Hellenic colonists around the Red Sea area?