Gretai Threat

Hi!
I am playing as the romani. My war against Swezboi is going extremley well. I hold the bridges in the helveti and Rhaetia provinces. And completley annihiaiated the army of Swezboi. Leaving their provinces more or less defensless. So now I have started the mopp up.

But to my suprise the Gretai attacked me. With decoys I managed to lure the invasion army away. And I scrambled a full army to counter attack/invade them. But to my suprice I was defeated. Leaving north of Italy open.

Even though If I interrupt my Swezboi invasion. I am still my army with get beated from the Gretai army. They simply won't rout. And even my extaordinary had problem fighting them. I am also in my Marian reform. So no more Extaordinari or elite cavalry :no:

What is your tip how should you takle this crizis. Or is west rome fallen. And Byzantium rising? A bit eariler 210BC?

How have you got the Marian reforms in 210BC? They aren't available until 172BC. What battle difficulty are you playing on?

probably some elefants could help (if you own north africa).
as roman i always take some of this wood-elefants to send fear and chaos in the lines. worked really good

and also bow´s and stones.

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Originally Posted by white_star

Hi!
I am playing as the romani. My war against Swezboi is going extremley well. I hold the bridges in the helveti and Rhaetia provinces. And completley annihiaiated the army of Swezboi. Leaving their provinces more or less defensless. So now I have started the mopp up.

But to my suprise the Gretai attacked me. With decoys I managed to lure the invasion army away. And I scrambled a full army to counter attack/invade them. But to my suprice I was defeated. Leaving north of Italy open.

Even though If I interrupt my Swezboi invasion. I am still my army with get beated from the Gretai army. They simply won't rout. And even my extaordinary had problem fighting them. I am also in my Marian reform. So no more Extaordinari or elite cavalry :no:

What is your tip how should you takle this crizis. Or is west rome fallen. And Byzantium rising? A bit eariler 210BC?

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Just to make some things clear, it's Sweboz and Getai. Not trying to play it smart or anything, but after playing EB for quite a long time you do have the tendency to get a little touchy when someone makes even such minor mistakes.:smash:

Anyway you seems to be in a position I have found myself quite afew times, with the difference of me being Makedonia. My tactics was to lure them to an open terrain, pin them with my phalanxes, rain death upon them with missile troops and hammer them with heavy and medium cavalry. In your case, I suggest you try and hire/recruit as many missile troops as you can. They simply can't stand up against intense missile fire (most of them have little to no armour, you see). Try and lure them to uneven terrain, deploy on a hilltop or any elevated terrain and wait for them. As soon as they approach, rain death upon them. When they engage your troops, fire some flaming missiles to demoralise them and they will drop like flies as well as rout easily. The rest is mopping!

Hope this proved helpful,
Maion

Most of the Getai troops are very much vulnerable to missile troops. So, like these good guys recommended, ankor (how do you spell anker?!) their troops with heavy infantry of your own, and send ranged troops to the flanks to shoot them down.

Keep in mind that most Getai troops are excellent anti-armour troops, as they all have those wicked falxes and such. Good luck...
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Originally Posted by Methuselah

(how do you spell anker?!)

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Anchor.

There is a reason that the standard Roman armies will struggle against the Getai - they have a whole heap of cheap falxmen with armour chopping swords that will dice up your expensive heavy infantry (which are typically the backbone of the Roman armies).

Get more slingers (celtic ones will do nicely) and take out all the falxmen before they reach your lines. Your heavy infantry then should have not problems taking down their other units.

I too have just fallen foul of the Getai in the most beautiful battle I've fought in EB. The Getai attacked and I smashed a couple of small forces then their main army hit my Consular army outside Segestica.
I drew my mixed legions up in a nice Darth formation and waited! It was like the scene in Gladiator I could hear them coming and suddenly there they were bursting from the forest and smashing into my line! It was a close battle and I thought I had got them when I flanked their left but the cunning devils had held a reserve of naked spearmen and smashed into my flanking manouvre and that was the beginning of the end. Best battle ever in EB a full toe to toe for 30mins.
Strangely their army was mostly Boii swordsmen and Celtic axemen.
For me personally I've always felt that the Getai and Lusotanian are the hardest foes for Roman forces to beat especially if your armies are somewhat historical, I don't like fighting them!
Also the toughest unit in the above battle were the classical hoplites from Taras as part of the allied legions.

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Originally Posted by Chris1959

I too have just fallen foul of the Getai in the most beautiful battle I've fought in EB. The Getai attacked and I smashed a couple of small forces then their main army hit my Consular army outside Segestica.
I drew my mixed legions up in a nice Darth formation and waited! It was like the scene in Gladiator I could hear them coming and suddenly there they were bursting from the forest and smashing into my line! It was a close battle and I thought I had got them when I flanked their left but the cunning devils had held a reserve of naked spearmen and smashed into my flanking manouvre and that was the beginning of the end. Best battle ever in EB a full toe to toe for 30mins.
Strangely their army was mostly Boii swordsmen and Celtic axemen.
For me personally I've always felt that the Getai and Lusotanian are the hardest foes for Roman forces to beat especially if your armies are somewhat historical, I don't like fighting them!
Also the toughest unit in the above battle were the classical hoplites from Taras as part of the allied legions.

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bah, hogwash. the best battle I had was 2 hours llong, against Epieros. I they had 3 armies against my 1. Completely epic. my tribune gained 4 experience by the end of it, and I think 3 infantry units gained 3. I don't think anyone didn't. needless to say, that army owned. Unitil the next set of reforms came about, that is.

Wow man, 3 vs 1? I once tried to play it Alexander with one army against 2 Epeirotic (I was Makedonia) and got annihilated, though I almost destroyed the first army and delivered some nasty injuries to the second one... Needless to say, I lost my general as well... How pathetic of me :P

Anyway, I guess when it comes to phalanx vs phalanx it's down to who has most troops (didn't have any terrain to take advantage of). It was one of my worst defeats :P

Maion

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Originally Posted by Chris1959

I too have just fallen foul of the Getai in the most beautiful battle I've fought in EB. The Getai attacked and I smashed a couple of small forces then their main army hit my Consular army outside Segestica.
I drew my mixed legions up in a nice Darth formation and waited! It was like the scene in Gladiator I could hear them coming and suddenly there they were bursting from the forest and smashing into my line! It was a close battle and I thought I had got them when I flanked their left but the cunning devils had held a reserve of naked spearmen and smashed into my flanking manouvre and that was the beginning of the end. Best battle ever in EB a full toe to toe for 30mins.
Strangely their army was mostly Boii swordsmen and Celtic axemen.
For me personally I've always felt that the Getai and Lusotanian are the hardest foes for Roman forces to beat especially if your armies are somewhat historical, I don't like fighting them!
Also the toughest unit in the above battle were the classical hoplites from Taras as part of the allied legions.

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I believe you were facing the migrating visigoths :laugh4:

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I they had 3 armies against my 1.

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Did you enabled unlimited man on battlefield or did you "cheated" and faced enemy armies one by one ?

3 fullstacks against 1 is honestly inconceivable unless you have Romans against lousy phalanx armies. Then you've got a chance to concentrate on each and and defeat it in detail. Otherwise, I cannot see how you could have taken three fullstacks converging on you at once.

Also, your computer must be real darned powerful, that's like, what, 11000 men on screen. o.O

I have to say here, NPNT. They have that a lot in Singapore's forums, heh. It means 'No Picture, No Talk.'

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Originally Posted by LorDBulA

Did you enabled unlimited man on battlefield or did you "cheated" and faced enemy armies one by one ?

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Maybe he doesn't have a good processor?

Feel free to buy me a new processor so I don't have to "Cheat."

Sorry If I sound offensive (even though its the internets and theres no way to tell really)

Hey. No offence ment.
I was just wondering, after all beating 3 armies that join battle at once is not the same as beating 3 armies that use trickle flow reinforcements.

I used word cheated in quotes. Because while not letting enemy use all its force is cheating its not like player has full control over it.

Graphic card is more of a issue with 3D graphics then processor.

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Originally Posted by LorDBulA

Graphic card is more of a issue with 3D graphics then processor.

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Not when you have a HD3850 and a 2ghz processor.

or a geforce 9800gx2 in quad sli and a intel gx 9650 quad core extreme going @ 4.63ghz per core...
dam still cant max out every slot with full units on battle lo
l (u know 10 faction custom battle... either a crash or lag out lol)

Lol. That's still not enough to handle so many units? Shocking o.O

I wonder what kind of dream system can handle every slot a fullstack maxed. Probably hasn't been invented yet. XD

ok wow... that's a whole lot of power, lol...

there's an AAR here where Swordmaster (i think) does the same thing, facing 3 stacks with one and grabbing the win