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Why are the rest of you always a step behind us?
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/15/gun...=ib_topstories
Why are the rest of you always a step behind us?
Good.
Also good. :yes:Quote:
It isn't clear how many of the 50 or so teachers and staff members will be armed this fall, because Thweatt did not disclose that information, to keep it from students or potential attackers.
Since you asked.Quote:
A tiny Texas school district
Raising your hands in school - not just for answering questions anymore...
How sad is that .
It really comes to something when a society is that screwed up and scared that it feels the need to have armed teachers .
Yep, I couldn't have put it better myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
I dont know. I think I would feel safer with a teacher armed with a gun rather than a student. As long as the teacher knows when and how to use it. Even if crime rate and school shootings weren't so high, I know back in my dads day the teachers used to leave rifles in their car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
I'll have to visit Texas. It seems that the spirit of Wild West was preserved there and ever since I've seen Gunfight at OK Coral I've wanted to feel that atmosphere... :laugh4:
Oh sorry I didn't realise that was the other optionQuote:
I dont know. I think I would feel safer with a teacher armed with a gun rather than a student.
Having known several teachers get stressed to the point of a mental breakdown, I'm not sure I'd be happy with them having a gun should it all get too much for them...
Well, sum kids just won't listen when ye talk to 'em...
Indeed. Very sad this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
So, let me get this straight: If they made no attempt to conceal it, they were allowed to have one all this time?
Should we start taking bets on if the next school shooter will be a teacher or a student? [/sarcasm]
because in case of a potential school shooting crossfire can only make it better....
The best safety tip you'll ever get is this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
DON'T PUT YOURSELF IN A DANGEROUS POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU DOLT!
They used to have rifle clubs at schools where even the kids would bring guns to school- yet the mass shootings that everyone feared never materialized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Veho Nex
I visited a public school just a few years ago that had a shooting range in its basement- now used for storage of course. It was pretty interesting.
Regardless, I'm not really sure I would feel safe in a class with Professor Sabata...
Call me biased, but I have known a few squirrelly teachers in my time. The thought of those individuals being licensed to carry arms in a classroom is unsettling, to say the least.
From the article, here's what is required for the teacher to carry a gun:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Joe
1) they must have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun
2) must be authorized to carry by the district
3) must receive training in crisis management and hostile situations
4) must use ammunition designed to minimize the risk of ricocheting bullets.
I'm glad to see not any teacher can carry a gun on a whim. But it still doesn't give me warm and fuzzies. I wonder who will be checking #4 and how often?
Can't wait till they hire a teacher who's secretly psycho :2thumbsup:
Besides, Texas, and the rest of the US, why are you guys http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us...ss&oref=slogin always a step behind us?
Right, cuz a teacher who wanted to go on a killing spree would let rules not allowing him to bring a gun to school stop him. That's why we've never had a school shooting- because students aren't allowed to bring guns to school... oh wait. :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by SwedishFish
It'll make it a lot easier. "I'm going to kill people in this school what should I use? Oh, that's right, I have the gun the school let's me bring and have on me without suspicion."Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
They very best that can be said for this comment is "morbid." Of course you wouldn't be hoping for the death of innocent students, even if they are guilty of the grave sin of being American?Quote:
Can't wait till they hire a teacher who's secretly psycho
As much as I'm rah-rah behind the 2A, I'm hesitant to support this. Hopefully nothing becomes of it and when it doesn't end in the deaths of dozens you can all try to find other ways to discredit firearm ownership.
You see, in other countries, we feel safer when neither a teacher nor a student carry guns. I feel (Heck, felt, since I'm already in college. :P) safer when it's the State School Police who carries all the guns. But that's just me. This law the thread is about is just another example why I consider the USA a barbarian country. (Adding to the list in which "Non-Existence of State Health Service" currently tops)Quote:
Originally Posted by Veho Nex
The barbarians sacked Rome.
Just sayin'. :D
*Sigh* apparently you did not see the smiley face at the end of the comment.Quote:
They very best that can be said for this comment is "morbid." Of course you wouldn't be hoping for the death of innocent students, even if they are guilty of the grave sin of being American?
But those are violations of a citizens rights , how dare they put up legal barriers that restrict a persons right to bear arms , and as for saying what ammunition people can and cannot have ....well thats just like them damn liberal euroweenies down mexico way .:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:Quote:
1) they must have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun
2) must be authorized to carry by the district
3) must receive training in crisis management and hostile situations
4) must use ammunition designed to minimize the risk of ricocheting bullets.
Wow , and I worked at a state school where they had not only a shooting range but an armoury too .Quote:
I visited a public school just a few years ago that had a shooting range in its basement- now used for storage of course. It was pretty interesting.
It wasn't so that kids could bring guns to school in case they needed protection from a nutcase with a gun though .
I've got to agree with Tribesman here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
As Xiahou alluded to, this country has always had guns a strong gun culture. There used to be gun clubs and shooting classes in most public schools. Sure there was gun crime, most notably in the early Western expansion and the gangster violence of the twenties, but most of that was directed at the participants or law enforcement when it tried to intervene - and more importantly, it was based on profit.
The idea of going postal - the mentality that "I'm going to go kill as many people as possible before the cops kill me." - is a sign of some real social problems.
I support this measure, but only as a band-aid. We need to work towards not having to have such things. The screamer's try and blame it all on video games and TV, but I think it goes deeper than that.
Everyone is still behind Texas :2thumbsup:
But they're behind California
Agreed I think the main problem is that we now live in a culture that vaules superficial traits that many times are ethier descturctive or given only through birth. Add in an increasing demand in the culture to have to be hugely succesful and conform and you get a perfect storm.Quote:
I support this measure, but only as a band-aid. We need to work towards not having to have such things. The screamer's try and blame it all on video games and TV, but I think it goes deeper than that.