Biased? What say you, though I find it obvious, of their lean?
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Biased? What say you, though I find it obvious, of their lean?
Left, but mainly because the stuff he satirises is to his right. In most countries the bias would just be considered common sense (Which is why it is popular outside the US).
what he saidQuote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Left and right, but not center, the jokes are directed towards whomever holds more political power currently and mostly towards the top. But for now yeah it's left, maybe next year it will be right.
For anyone who doesn't know about The Daily Show, here's a link: http://www.thedailyshow.com/
How can anyone NOT know the daily show? I'm from Portugal and I laugh my ass off with Jon Steward. xD
I'll more-or-less repeat what I said in another thread: first and foremost TDS has to be funny. If they ever lose sight of that — if they ever decided to be the partisan warriors they get accused of being — they'll lose it, cease to be amusing, and quickly get yanked off the air for another America's Funniest Animals show.
Because in Britain political shows are of a much higher caliber than a man sipping coffee and pulling a funny face every time he thinks something funny has happened...
I mean, its just such a lame show, why anyone worries about I don't know.
But yeah it does lean to the left, simply because the right is atm easier to make fun of and the show is just not smart enough to take a dig at the left.
Yes, Minister has to be the best political-related comedy show of all time. No question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar
I can laugh about my side plenty. There is plenty to laugh at, but over the past few years the funny stuff has been replaced by repetitive political hackery. The daily show has become for the left what radio shows like Limbaugh are for the right - they are both entertainment for their respective followers. It's all spin and it has become more absurd and less fair - more serious and less funny.
It is sad because a fake news show is a good idea - I wish they'd try it instead of being simply anti-conservative/Republican.
The onion tilts left, but I don't find that the majority of their jokes to be unfair. They should port the onion onto a television channel to give the daily show some centrist competition.
There is no question at all that the Daily Show is vile leftwing propaganda. And it's not even ever the least bit funny, either.
Maybe not, but that post was :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
TDS is urban and progressive.
Which is not the same as 'biased', never mind 'partisan hackery'. These qualifications belong to a specific US conservative, partisan mindset.
The equivalent would be to call Limbaugh or Coulter 'reactionary enemies of the proletariat'. Neither are. Because these qualifications belong to a specific communist mindset.
'Media bias', 'liberal elites' - these are not neutral terms to describe the American political media landscape, they instead belong to a specific political outlook. The qualifications don't make sense outside of this discourse. John Stewart is no more a biased liberal partisan than Limbaugh is an ememy of the proletariat.
Alas! I get a 'US only' message. Is it available on YouTube?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Edit: for similar reasons, Navaros' posts make perfect sense to me. He posts from yet another very different persective altogether. Within his discourse, he is perfectly logical and consistent.
Edit II: I prefer open polls. I'm always curious to see who votes what.
Quoted for truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
I don't understand. Are you claiming that the right has some sort of manifersto that holds sole proprietorship over the terms "partisan" or "hackery" (which I believe is a made up word.)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
We can't use terms that can be applied to any side of "partisan hacks"? I've used the term to describe both Limbaugh and Stewart. They both have an angry and sarcastic tone that harps on ideological issues at the expense of objectivity. I think we can call them both hacks who are exceptionally good at what they do - entertain listeners who want to hear about politics in a wya that gets their blood boiling.
I can use "political hackery" without being the same as a Marxist who uses terms like Proletariat and Burgeoisie - which are arguable ideological groupings - rather than objective adjectives.
Left and right (center just isn't funny). If Obama gets elected, they will rip him because they will have to. Otherwise the show will die. If anyone shows incompetence, hypocrisy, and huge amounts of spin, they will jump on it. If the media fails to properly cover a story, they will jump on it. Don't forget their source material. Except for their silly stuff, they are showing news footage/editorial and the "victim's" own words. When the Dem politicos get their time in the spotlight, expect the same treatment.
I don't think that they will focus on politics all that much. They will expand into other areas. The daily show only started getting really political in order to attack prosecutors during the Clinton affair. Stewart made the show political - and he will transition to a regular fake news show when Obama is elected. He has been so absolutely obsessed with Iraq that for a few years it was the only thing that he talked about.Quote:
Originally Posted by drone
I don't believe that the show will become political again until the Republicans have a majority in Congress or a President in the White House. It won't get viewers on the left - nobody would watch someone who attacked their own with that much regularity.
and if he does that (which I don´t think he will) the show will lose popularity (specially outside the US) and he´ll feel the sting.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
seems like a self-correcting situation to me.
I'l bet that he changes focus off of politics and rationalizes like this: "the people in office just aren't that funny right now" and people will buy it. Then they can go ahead and make fun of rednecks around the country and people who think they see aliens like they used to when the show was funnier anyway - maybe throwing an occasional jab at politics when Obama does or says something un-progressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
You should watch the clip I posted. The daily show consistently makes fun of obama using the same avenue of attack that the republicans take. And it's hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
That show is played out. It used to be so much funnier if anyone remembers the old days where Stewart had just taken over from Craig Kilborn or whoever it was. I'm not sure if Stewart is taking himself too seriously, the writing has suffered, or maybe I'm just getting older. Anyway, why are we discussing the political leanings of a comedy show, but there was nothing on the handover of Anbar?
because the war is lost...duhQuote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
Anbar is a huge deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Create a thread then...Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
My humor is lost on the lot of youQuote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
I was just saying. I know that you know it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
If it's not sent on Discovery Channel or National Geographic; I obviously haven't seen it. ~D
Holy crap.
Now we're discussing the politics of comedy....?
I fear for the world.
The problem is when people take comedy seriously as their source of opinion on politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore