Mini-Campaigns for Expansion

If CA choose to make the ETW expansion with the same format of 4 mini-campaigns that Kingdoms used, which campaigns would you like to see? We already know that apart from the main campaign there will be a campaign focusing on the American Wars of Independence in the main game. Personally, I'd like to see:

1. The Jacobite Uprisings - a map of the British isles focusing on the Jacobite rising of 1745 and perhaps earlier risings as well. The factions would be Hannoverians and Jacobites, not Scotland v England as CA might be inclined to do.

2. The Great Northern War - the map would be similar to that of the Teutonic campaign of Kingdoms. Factions would be Russia, Denmark, Saxony, Prussia, and Poland-Lithuania on the one side. On the other would be Sweden, with its allies the Zaporozhian Cossacks. Other powers that fought in the conflict for example Holland and the Ottoman Empire could be represented by their armies appearing from the edges of the map, as with the crusader factions in the Teutonic campaign.

Not really sure for numbers 3 and 4. Perhaps a campaign focusing on the South American wars of independence? Also a campaign set in southern Africa focusing on the conflict between the British and Zulus and Boers? Maybe a campaign with many European settlements to focus on a Napoleonic campaign?

I hope there would be a Shogun Total War expansion!

War of 1812 and I suppose Napoleons 100 days since it seems the game ends in 1800 and not 1820 as previously thought, unless the date was a typo in the article that was released recently.

I thought it was a typo, and that Jack Lusted confirmed it as being such. Don't scare me, please.

Anyways, I think a war in North America is an absolute must. The 7-years-war, the War of 1812, whichever it may be, would be pretty sweet. A Napoleon campaign would be pretty awesome, too. The staggering amount of combat and campaigns would be intense.

As for any others, well, I'm not so sure. My knowledge concerning this era in history isn't exactly clear as sunshine. :crowngrin:

Napoleon, then, maybe something near the time of the Revolt of 1857, and something about the American Civil War, or the American-Indian Wars...........though I have a feeling that the latter two might not be possible considering they were using repeating rifles by then.

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Originally Posted by india

Napoleon, then, maybe something near the time of the Revolt of 1857, and something about the American Civil War, or the American-Indian Wars...........though I have a feeling that the latter two might not be possible considering they were using repeating rifles by then.

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The ACW and Indian wars seems a little too far advance for the scope of the game, IMO, even for an expansion pack. Although the French and Indian wars or the maybe the French revolution (localized in France and picking between Royal or Republic soldiers) would be interesting. I'm sure there are plenty of other things that happened during the 1700s.

Am I the only one interested in a shogun type expansion? Because Japan isn't big enough for a S2:TW. The land battles engine would be perfect for a shogun expansion.

That almost has nothing to do with ETW, though. To the best of my memory, Japan was a small, isolated island throughout this time period. If you want to try Shogun again, it would have to be a new game, or a mod. :no:

I wouldn't mind seeing them focus on some of the wars or uprisings in this time period. Assuming they go like last game and pick one major event from each span of a handful of years it will probably be similar. I like kingdoms but but the campaigns seemed a little to easy, you always seemed to start off with alot of soliders, land and resources (unless you picked lithuania in teutonic campaign). I suppose I'd rather have the option to start off as something a little smaller.

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Originally Posted by india

Napoleon, then, maybe something near the time of the Revolt of 1857, and something about the American Civil War, or the American-Indian Wars...........though I have a feeling that the latter two might not be possible considering they were using repeating rifles by then.

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Gah! Please, no. :no:

Not that I don't find U.S. history interesting, but most of it wouldn't translate very well to a Total War game. Most wars/conflicts in our first century generally involved only two major factions, which simply wouldn't be that interesting to play.

About the only period I could think of that even might work would be a Colonies campaign, set back in the 16th-17th century. At least there you could have four European factions (the Dutch, English, French, and Spanish) and maybe 2-3 major Native American tribes (Iroquois and the Crow, perhaps? I'm not that familiar with the tribes in the eastern U.S.), all fighting over territory in North America.

Aside from that, though, I just can't see an expansion over here. :shrug:

Rest assured they will release a expansion.

If you were basing this off previous expansions I'd say the 4 would break down like this.


1. England revolt=They are in england, they like england, chances are one of the campaigns will involve england, a war a revolt, something.

2. Napolean=It's to famous and easy of a cash cow not to do. Well documented sides, lots of gunpowder, etc etc.

3.Something in new world Asia or Americas.

4. Something with the US, yes if for no other reason then they now seem to be on a america band wagon for sales. (I blame Sega)

I would like to see a campaign set in one of the areas that Empire misss out. Asia, Africa and South America would all be good locations. I would also really love to see a naval focused campaign based around the Caribbean. Island warfare is fascinating, and I doubt we will see much of it in the main campaign.

India and the East India Trading Company.

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Napoleon, then, maybe something near the time of the Revolt of 1857, and something about the American Civil War, or the American-Indian Wars...........though I have a feeling that the latter two might not be possible considering they were using repeating rifles by then.

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The majority of the weapons used in the civil war by infantry were muzzel loaded. Repeating rifles did not come in to increased use until the end of the war. The muzzel loaded rifles did have increades accuracy and range though. The high rate of casualties in the war is partially attributed to the use of tactics developed for the previous generation of rifles that had lower range and accuracy.
Repeating rifles would probably just require an incresed rate of fire.

Since the GNW was covered...maybe Napoleon's Russian campaign? Or just a general 'Napoleonic' campaign.

For something more obscure, perhaps a campaign about the partition of Poland? Sure it was historically pretty one-sided (from the Polish point of view, anyway :P), but it might be interesting to do some alternate history there.

For the Americans (and Texans) maybe a Texas Revolution mini-campaign? I think that'd be really great, myself. Remember the Alamo!

The War of Jenkins' Ear? :laugh4:

Some theaters that saw large scale conflicts during the timeframe:

The baltic - The great northern war. Sweden, Russia, Denmark, Poland, Brandenburg/Prussia, Saxony.
North America - The war of Jenkins ear (not sure which of the many conflicts this is:p), the French & Indian war, the American Revolution. Starring Britain, France & Spain (possibly Holland as well if we include the west indies). The earlier conflicts should have very active native indian players as well.
India - Various exotic indian states, the mighty Mughal empire, Britain, France, Portugal, and Holland duke it out.
Europe: War of the Spanish succession, Seven years war, and the Revolutionary wars offer three very different conflicts with different technology but on the same piece of real estate.
The Balkans/Black Sea: Russia, Austria, Poland, and the Turks fight for hegemony over this mountainous piece of real estate.
South America: The revolutionary wars. Grand Colombia, Spain, Portugal/Brazil...

Definately the southamerican wars of independence. José de San Martín's campaigns, Cochrane's campaigns commanding chilean flleet, oh, and Bolivar.

Yeah I was about to say, japan totalwar for an expandsion, and maybe like filibuster said mexico and maybe texan war for independance.

I'm the one who said Texas War of Independence >_>

I don't think they'll do a 'Japan: Total War' minicampaign for this one. Unless it's about the Japanese civil war in the mid 1800's, which is a bit out of this game's time period and (to a lot of people) a rather obscure period of history. The general knowledge of people outside of Asia about that era is basically "Perry showed up and said 'Let there be Light!' and suddenly Japan started producing cars and cell phones."

The various Latin American wars for independence are kind of a maybe. The only thing I hated more than when the AI was at the top of a steep hill in RTW and MTW2 was when the AI was at the top of a steel hill and the entire map was covered in forest. And somehow I imagine any campaign in South America would involve lots of jungle fighting.

Sadly, I agree.

While the ambushes, jungle fighting and guriella warfare could be fun I don't think Total War Ai is up to par for playing them out properly.

I used to hate battles where it was me literally *Chasing* the AI waiting until they realized where I was and attacked. Those got very boring very fast. I just wanted them to attack or at least defend, even retreat. Instead they just ran around in a circle.