This is freaky
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This is freaky
I dont know what to say but I will be following this story.
That is very sad.
http://www.city-data.com/school/normandy-high-mo.html
I don't understand why this is so predominately a black problem. Are black sexual mores that different from white sexual mores in the 21st century?
I wanna know how 50 kids got exposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
Probably either a teacher who was molesting them or some drug addicted jock who slays dragons regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Sexual morality is at the heart of this. People are all connected even if they only have sex with 2 or three people in their high school careers.
Which is why people should use rubbers right Tuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
This is all a bit strange, how did it spread so much ?
petty complaint, i know, by why does the title say "the aids" instead of just to aids...
Edit: He's going to disagree with me at which point we debate.
can't wait...
Because I forgot to type virus while typing another thread. My bad dawg.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Yea - rubbers. I'm amazed at how naive people can be about condoms. Who the hell uses those stupid things? Just don't have sex or support strict monogamy. Condoms are pointless and most of the college educated friends that I have use them less than 50% of the time with various women. What do you think is the likelihood that the majority of people use them? In fact, they give people a false sense of security because, more often then not, they arn't going to wear them even if they have them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Sex isn't even worthwhile with those things. Monogamy or bust.
More like people at that age shouldn't be having sex anyway IMO.
I would however note that HIV is not AIDS. They have been exposed to HIV, some may or may not develop AIDS as a result.
As for the article, I read it this morning, found it rather shocking, and think that since a person of interest said so, its likely a problem of drug abuse rather than an orgy involving 50 students.
How in Gods name are condoms worthless? I mean yea you do lose some sensitivity but the pros outweigh the cons.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
I admit i have never used one but i can imagine sex with a condom being better than no sex at all..... i suppose it would vary depening on the thickness of the condom...
Talk about hands, not condoms. Masturbation is 100% safe with those things and, imho 20x better than sex with a condom. I've used trojans, magnums, lambskin, etc. All useless, all expensive, and all ruin the moment, .Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Condoms stink. Use the old potato masher and save yourself some heartache and crotch rot... Or court a lady for marriage.
You've either got crap condoms had crap sex or you've got a really good hand!
Yea. I'd imagine I may be biased, but my hands are usually dry and calloused while women in general are soft. Not to mention they usually smell nicer than me. I dont see how they ruin the moment either. Sex isnt just penetration its about the whole experience. Condoms have never made me think any less of sex.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
If "it isn't about penetration" then don't do that. Problem solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Well I'd wager its one of the most important parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
Right. So if fumbling for a condom ruins the tertiary and the condom itself ruins the main sensation - why bother, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Putting on a condom has never ruined anything for me. Maybe it was because me and her both knew I would eventually have to slip it on IDK. I dont think it ruins the sensation either but whateverQuote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
What I'm saying is that the payoff is reduced considerably - almost entirely for me. Couple this with the fact that it takes discipline and with the reality that it promotes a false sense of security in lecherous behavior - you have a losing argument in my opinion.
as opposed to a higher rate of STDs and unwanted pregnancies?Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
The winning argument is having other interests and getting to know people way before you have sex with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
What if your amazingly good in bed and want as many women as possible to experience your greatness, anything less than rampant casual sex would just be selfish...
I have other interests this forum being one of them. What if you dont want to get to know them?Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
If your main interest is sex, then have as much of it as you want and die young.
If you don't want to get to know them then don't waste your time. Spend all time, money and sexual security on people worth it.
Why die young?Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
If you sky dive and it is your main interest you will probably die young - but it will be worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Sex with condoms is only a reasonable trade off for the people who primarily enjoy the callous domination aspect. I don't like that all that much, I like the feeling of it, so the condoms are not a sensible trade off - i'd rather trade frequency and number of partners for sensation when keeping myself safe.
Make your choice, but the reality is that people with many partners who use condoms are more likely to get HIV than those with very few partners who don't.
Now we're assuming.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
Proper use of condoms is 99.8% effective. This doesn't take into account the monumentally retarded, human error, "other types of intercourse" and human passion. Add all of that together and anything else I've missed (condom resistant diseases and parasites, the de-sensitization and the cost) and it is not the best thing to push. I have no problem with birth control - this isn't a religious issue for me. I have practical concerns with anything that is not alluring being pushed as a surefire way not to ruin your life when in reality it is impractical and nowhere near as effective as advertised. Birth control pills and vasectomy are a great trade off in a monogamous relationship, but condoms are an all-round loser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
I'm sure that this high school has a great sexual health program. It is a public, quasi-urban black school. I don't think that lack of sex ed is the problem here.
Let me digress for a moment, but I'm pretty sure that HIV will always eventually lead to AIDS. They aren't separate diseases. AIDS is just the fourth stage of HIVQuote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
I can’t believe that there is someone against condoms, how weird this is to me. I have been having sex for 20 years on a pretty regular basis (same girl for 18 years) and have only had sex without a condom a few dozen times. It is just part of our fun.
We don’t want to risk pregnancy, I don’t want to get snipped, other forms of physical birth control are not as comfortable and she goes crazy when she is on the pill – condoms are our best alternative.
As to the topic, I could see how 1 person could introduce 50 to an STD in a school of 1,300. Heck my school only had 300 people and I could follow a chain of who’s sleeping with who to 50 people easy.