Say it ain't SO!
Never liked him. Frankly I don't care as he is a yankee and a pompous bastard. I'll just watch my Sox run train on these boys again come April.
As for the whole steroids thing. Who cares?
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Say it ain't SO!
Never liked him. Frankly I don't care as he is a yankee and a pompous bastard. I'll just watch my Sox run train on these boys again come April.
As for the whole steroids thing. Who cares?
Baseball is on its way out anyway. College football alone gets more viewers.
They seriously need a salary cap.
Professional athletes use performance enhancing drugs???
I´m SHOCKED sir....SHOCKED!!! :wiseguy:
In other breaking news... observers around the globe make shocking observation... sky appears to be.... BLUE. :jawdrop:
I'm supposed to be shocked or sadded because....? :hanged::stwmean:
I love baseball, always have. My team won last year.
Baseball is really on a down cycle in public image these days. Sad, but true.
*Sees westsiders experiencing Schadenfreude*
Can't say I care much.
CR
Yeah, I love baseball more than any sport, but professional atheletes as a group probably shouldn't be thought of as role models. Considering ARod is most likely the only current player that has a legitimate shot at breaking Bond's tainted HR record, and the Yankee's just ponied up a lot of money to have him do it at their new stadium someday...big disappointment. Now he's tainted too, and that's a shame and big loss for the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
You're a Sox fan Strike?
For shame, for shame. :no:
And you're a cross dresser who looks better in women's clothes but I wasn't going to bring that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Okay, I just got burned but you're only allowed to use that once.
Lame, When did these rules get put into place? Did the Aussies put you up to this? untrustworthy lot, they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
That rule precedes writing itself. It's an ancient rule saying that "the burn must not be overused to prevent the burn itself from becoming lame."
BTW, my floormates give you a high-five.
And just so this totally doesn't get off-topic, I think the one escape baseball has is that it happened in 2003, right before everybody started cracking down. Plus, A-Rod wasn't a Yankee until the year after. So, while catastrophic, it's not as bad as it could be.
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Not to pile on, but Strike....Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
"Wrastlin" ain't real either!!!:laugh4:
And that's the shame. What the young fellas above have written, reveals that ARod's cheating (that's what it was: cheating) lessens their respect, not only for the cheaters and their co-players, but also - because this news is seemingly so pervasive - leads them to disregard as irrelevant, the values of the game:
-past performance is an accurate indicator of future performance (for stats reviewers)
-power is good, but strategy harnessing power = win
-nuance comprehension is crucial
-rules matter.
If the next generation tosses these concepts for sport because some idiots misunderstood their roles, what will they (the next generation) do when it's life-or-death?
Cave in? Take the easier, quicker, drug-enhanced way out?
Cheese 'n Rice, what have they done to my sport?
That is a shame. I'm only a baseball fan in passing, that is to say I enjoy a good game but don't cheer for any one team.
I can only imagine the disappointment for all fans and baseball writers who were really looking to this guy to "take back" the HR record down the road. :shame:
See I don't think steroids are that big of a deal.
Wern't they legal and then the MLB went on this retroactive whichunt? Or am I remembering wrong.
Besides steroids don't make you better at the game nor are they some type of miracle cure.
Something about enjoying the skill and athleticism of the sportsman rather than the ability of his chemist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
In a game like baseball one must have the elite hand & eye coordination to succeed at a major league level. Steroids can't help you there. However, baseball is also a game of endurance. The season is very long. 162 regular season games long, plus preseason/offseason leagues and daily practice, and constant long distance travel. Most players suffer injury, fatigue and weight loss . Steroids help players recover from injury & muscle fatigue quicker, and also help maintain muscle mass for those that lose weight over the course of such a long season. IMO pitchers are most helped by using these substances because of the stresses their arms are subjected to with all the throwing they do. Considering the amount of money involved in professional sports it's only human nature for some to try and find any edge they can to compete. Using steroids as a training regimen instead of a short term medication for specific injury is not only cheating, but dangerous to the health of the athelete because of the side affects of these substances when used long-term. The appearance of cheating taints the achievements & records of any athlete, and is not in the best interests of sport. Using these substances as a training regimen is illegal now, but wasn't in 2003; you are correct. Some people's witchunts are another's search for truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Besides, Babe Ruth dominated his sport despite employing a training regimen of beer drinking, pizza & pasta overindulgence and chainsmoking cigars. kinda gives hope to the rest of us average joes.
Both valid points, but isnt this just the game evolving. Why are steroids any different from anyother substance that has come onto the market that is legal.
You still need skill to play steroids don't give you talent.
Yes, and to break many of the league records one must play at that high skill level for years, 15-20 years of stamina & good fortune to avoid a career ending injury. That's where steroid abusers will get an unfair advantage, and quite possibly damage their own future health in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
There are unfair advantages in all sports now compared to even ten years ago. Why anabolic get such a bad rap is odd, don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito
The long term health effects are over exaggerated but thats for another time
Like that guy who pitched a no hitter while on acid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Please tell me who this is. That guy will be my hero forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Dock Ellis:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Joe
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"I was in Los Angeles, and the team was playing in San Diego , but I didn't know it. I had taken LSD..... I thought it was an off-day, that's how come I had it in me. I took the LSD at noon. At 1pm, his girlfriend and trip partner looked at the paper and said, "Dock, you're pitching today!"
"That's when it was $9.50 to fly to San Diego. She got me to the airport at 3:30. I got there at 4:30, and the game started at 6:05pm. It was a twi-night doubleheader.
I can only remember bits and pieces of the game. I was psyched. I had a feeling of euphoria.
I was zeroed in on the (catcher's) glove, but I didn't hit the glove too much. I remember hitting a couple of batters and the bases were loaded two or three times.
The ball was small sometimes, the ball was large sometimes, sometimes I saw the catcher, sometimes I didn't. Sometimes I tried to stare the hitter down and throw while I was looking at him. I chewed my gum until it turned to powder. They say I had about three to four fielding chances. I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Sports are a run on rules. They are in fact a more constricted subset of rules then what is allowed in general society. So if the rules for a sport say that only one offensive player can move then it is a foul if two of them do so. If the rules say no chainsaws on field, that is the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
If steroids have no benefit... then why spend up big and use them?
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Maybe one day we will develop a neo-steroid that has no negative side effects and will make the body repair damaged nerve cells only the way up to a broken neck. It will also improve red blood count and the ability of the body to use the oxygen, give a reptiles ability to manipulate heart beat and countless other things. We might find that you need to be using this for at least 3 months to mitigate a broken neck.
If such a substance existed we would have insurance companies making such a substance mandatory. But until that day, if the substance is illegal within a sport then it is cheating.
Somewhat surprisingly, he actually just passed away a month or two ago. Rather amazing considering all the different stuff he put into his body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
this morning i was listening to the radio and it had on a sound byte of A-Rod apologizing, and when he said "and to all my Texas fans" i thought of SFTS.
They call him A-Roid now days I heard.
I didn't like Yankees for the money ball and their playing style, but I always respected A-Rod for what he does. He always gets his homeruns when im watching. I heard about that 4 or 5 home runs in a row.
I hope he never do it again