AŠKĀNĪĀN

I have renamed pahlava with persian original name as "AŠKĀNĪĀN". What do you think?

here are some pics:

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Is it correct with old persian? or How Arsacids called themselves in their own language? Though I know royal court used greek as well.
I am planning to change baktria as "Basileon ton Asias, too.


If you want to download this modification :

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http://www.2shared.com/file/5849426/...anian_Mod.html

backup your own files, then change these file in your EB data folder.

I hope you like it.

P.S. I cannot help myself stopping modding :laugh4:

here is some references :

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ARSACIDS, THE (Persian Aškānīān), Parthian dynasty which ruled Iran from about 250 B.C. to about 226 A.D.

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In about 245 B.C., during the reign of the Seleucid monarch Seleucus II (r. 246-25 B.C.), Andragoras, the Seleucid satrap of the province of Parthava, made himself independent. Soon afterwards, ca. 239 B.C., his example was followed by Diodotus, satrap of Bactria, a Seleucid satrapy which was to play a significant role for more than a hundred years as the Greco-Bactrian kingdom.

The reasons for the defection of these two satrapies in such rapid succession are not known, nor is the extent to which the inhabitants, i.e. Macedonians, Greeks, and the natives, participated in the rebellions (cf. E. Will, Histoire politique du monde hellénistique [323-30 av. J. C.] I2, 1979, pp. 281ff.) At any rate, the Parni exploited the defection of these two eastern provinces of the Seleucid kingdom by launching an invasion into Parthia, ca. 238 B.C., in the course of which Andragoras met his death. Shortly afterwards they also occupied Hyrcania. It is likely that the term Parthians was applied to the Parni during this period after their occupation of the satrapy of Parthava and subsequently, no doubt, they came to use the designation themselves. Originally, therefore, Parthava is to be understood as a geographical term; then, in the form “Parthian,” it became the name of a people when the Parni invaders started to extend their kingdom.

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The Greek legends, almost invariably in the genitive case, are set in a square, and always include the dynastic name Arsaces in addition to the royal title Great King (basiléōs megálou) or, from Mithradates II onward, more often King of the Kings (basiléōs basiléōn) and to epithets which gradually become more numerous. The epithets are at first manifestly political assertions, but later become stereotyped strings of words losing their immediate political sense (e.g. basiléōs basiléōn Arsákou euergétou dikaíou epiphanoûs philéllēnos). The king’s personal name is only mentioned in exceptional circumstances such as struggles for the throne when rival kings held power in different areas (e.g. epikalouménou Mithradátou on coins of Mithradates III; kekalouménos Gōtérzēs on coins of Gotarzes II). After Vologases I, however, the king’s personal name appears regularly on the tetradrachms. On the drachms the Greek legends become increasingly corrupt from about Orodes II onward, first in the mints of the northeastern frontier provinces.

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"encyclopedia iranica"

Could you possibly upload this? Here's a Balloon :balloon2:

It is a torture for a user to change them but I will upload it soon.
I have modded a lot of things. I should separate necessary files for this. I am just checking wether there is some missing Pahlava name that will be appear in the game.:book:
I may upload today. :yes:

I have uploaded this mod. just check the first message.

About Basileion ton Asias: That would be quite wrong for several reasons.

a) In those times, Greek states would be called as "people living in a state" instead of "state of people". So it should just remain Baktria (land of the Baktrioi, or "the state of the Baktrians living in Baktria").
b) Basileion ton Asias is both wrong grammatically, as well as topologically. Grammatically, ton means "of the" in Greek. That's for masculine nouns, not feminine as Baktria is. The correct form would be Basileion tes Baktrias, though the "tes" is not needed. So simply Basileion Asias would, grammatically, be correct. Topoligically, "Asia" encompasses too much land to refer solely to the Baktrian Kingdom of the Hellenes. The Seleukeis also belonged to Asia, so why shouldn't they be called Arche Asias (Empire/Rule of the East)? Because it doesn't differ them from a bunch of other city-states, kingdoms and various confederations that existed in the vastness of what is Asia. A much better subtitute, would be Basileion Baktries, or "Kingdom of Baktria".

Maion

My aim is Maion is name states even after their losing homelands. For example when I capture Makedonia or Bactria they have still same Makedonia, Baktria, ... I really do not know how to solve ... ( I do not destroy factions, not like Romani barbaroi)
:dizzy2:
For Baktria "Basileion Hellenion Asias or Indou" should be logical but not sure historical accurate...
second one must be for Indo-Greek kingdom
P.S. Online Greek translators are bulls...t!

Here is the list I used for Pontic offices I hope all correct:

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Archistratêgos (Commander-in-chief)
Dioiketes
Strategos tes Kappadokias
Strategos tes Mikras Asias
Strategos tes Syrias
Strategos tes Thraikias
Strategos tes Tauris
Strategos tes Makedonias
Strategos tes Armenias
Strategos tes Ioudaias
Strategos tes Mesopotamias
Strategos tes Medias

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Originally Posted by Atraphoenix

My aim is Maion is name states even after their losing homelands. For example when I capture Makedonia or Bactria they have still same Makedonia, Baktria, ... I really do not know how to solve ... ( I do not destroy factions, not like Romani barbaroi)
:dizzy2:
For Baktria "Basileion Hellenion Asias or Indou" should be logical but not sure historical accurate...
second one must be for Indo-Greek kingdom
P.S. Online Greek translators are bulls...t!

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Ah, I see now. So you want a name that can be used even when you move them somewhere else? But that doesn't make much sense, since you could move, say, Epeiros to Megale Hellas/Illyria/Atropatene/Pergamon. How could you possibly find out a name that encompasses all these options?

I suggest you stick with the names that are given per default, or you can always ask me or anyone else for suggestions as to what other names you could give a faction when you move them around. Maybe "Indohellenikon Basileion" (Indo-Hellenic Kingdom) could be a potential candidate for moving Baktria around the eastern-most parts of the EB map, but really I wouldn't advice it. But it's your call anyway. And I know on-line Greek translations suck. Big time.

Maion

I gave in :dizzy2:
Hax may be interested in changing but I have surrenderred:surrender2:

Here is the full list of Hellenic Offices in EOM that I am planning to add in the last version can you confirm no mistakes there?:

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{makedon_archistrategos} Archistratêgos

{makedon_archistrategos_desc}
This man has been appointed as the Commander-in-Chief of all Makedon armies.

{makedon_archistrategos_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +2 Command, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{makedon_dioiketes} Dioiketes

{makedon_dioiketes_desc}
Minister of Finance of Hellenic factions.

{makedon_dioiketes_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{makedon_satrapy_of_makedonia} Strategos tes Makedonias

{makedon_satrapy_of_makedonia_desc}
This man is the satrap of Makedonia. His charge is the administration and protection of the true homeland of Megas Alexandros.

{makedon_satrapy_of_makedonia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{makedon_satrapy_of_thraikia} Strategos tes Thraikias

{makedon_satrapy_of_thraikia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Thraikia. Thanks to its jeopolitical position the Governor may live in a very luxurious life at the expense of constant danger that any enemy would be very happy to have this province for themselves!

{makedon_satrapy_of_thraikia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{makedon_satrapy_of_mikra_asia} Strategos tes Mikras Asias

{makedon_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_desc}
The governor of Mikra Asia, this man controls the land west of the Tauros Mountains. His job is to protect and maintain this diverse and large peninsula from the many potential enemies on and around the peninsula.

{makedon_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{makedon_satrapy_of_kappadokia} Strategos tes Kappadokias

{makedon_satrapy_of_kappadokia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Kappadokia. One of the strategical satrapies of the Empire, so the main concern of the Satrap is the defence of his realm.

{makedon_satrapy_of_kappadokia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{ptolemic_archistrategos} Archistratêgos

{ptolemic_archistrategos_desc}
This man has been appointed as the Commander-in-Chief of all Ptolemic armies.

{ptolemic_archistrategos_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +2 Command, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{ptolemic_dioiketes} Dioiketes

{ptolemic_dioiketes_desc}
Minister of Finance of Hellenic factions.

{ptolemic_dioiketes_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{ptolemic_satrapy_of_egypt} Strategos tes Aígyptos

{ptolemic_satrapy_of_egypt_desc}
This man is the Governor of Egypt.

{ptolemic_satrapy_of_egypt_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{ptolemic_satrapy_of_ioudaia} Strategos tes Ioudaias

{ptolemic_satrapy_of_ioudaia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Ioudaia. One of the strategical satrapies of the Empire, so the main concern of the governor is the defence of his realm.

{ptolemic_satrapy_of_ioudaia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{ptolemic_satrapy_of_syria} Strategos tes Syrias

{ptolemic_satrapy_of_syria_desc}
This man is the Governor of Syria.

{ptolemic_satrapy_of_syria_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{ptolemic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia} Strategos tes Mikras Asias

{ptolemic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Mikra Asia.

{ptolemic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_archistrategos} Archistratêgos

{pontic_archistrategos_desc}
This man has been appointed as the Commander-in-Chief of all Pontic armies.

{pontic_archistrategos_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +2 Command, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_dioiketes} Dioiketes

{pontic_dioiketes_desc}
Minister of Finance of Hellenic factions.

{pontic_dioiketes_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_kappadokia} Strategos tes Kappadokias

{pontic_satrapy_of_kappadokia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Kappadokia.

{pontic_satrapy_of_kappadokia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia} Strategos tes Mikras Asias

{pontic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Mikra Asia.

{pontic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_syria} Strategos tes Syrias

{pontic_satrapy_of_syria_desc}
This man is the Governor of Syria.

{pontic_satrapy_of_syria_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_thraikia} Strategos tes Thraikias

{pontic_satrapy_of_thraikia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Thraikia.

{pontic_satrapy_of_thraikia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_tauris} Strategos tes Tauris

{pontic_satrapy_of_tauris_desc}
This man is the Governor of Tauris.

{pontic_satrapy_of_tauris_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_makedonia} Strategos tes Makedonias

{pontic_satrapy_of_makedonia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Makedonia. His charge is the administration and protection of the true homeland of Megas Alexandros.

{pontic_satrapy_of_makedonia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_armenia} Strategos tes Armenias

{pontic_satrapy_of_armenia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Armenia.

{pontic_satrapy_of_armenia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_ioudaia} Strategos tes Ioudaias

{pontic_satrapy_of_ioudaia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Ioudaia.

{pontic_satrapy_of_ioudaia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_mesopotamia} Strategos tes Mesopotamias

{pontic_satrapy_of_mesopotamia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Mesopotamia.

{pontic_satrapy_of_mesopotamia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{pontic_satrapy_of_media} Strategos tes Medias


{pontic_satrapy_of_media_desc}
This man is the Governor of Media.

{pontic_satrapy_of_media_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{baktrian_archistrategos} Archistratêgos

{baktrian_archistrategos_desc}
This man has been appointed as the Commander-in-Chief of all Baktrian armies.

{baktrian_archistrategos_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +2 Command, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{baktrian_dioiketes} Dioiketes

{baktrian_dioiketes_desc}
Minister of Finance of Hellenic factions.

{baktrian_dioiketes_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{baktrian_satrapy_of_baktria} Strategos tes Baktrias

{baktrian_satrapy_of_baktria_desc}
This man is the Governor of Baktria, the Motherland of the Baktrian Empire.

{baktrian_satrapy_of_baktria_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{baktrian_satrapy_of_india} Strategos tou Indou

{baktrian_satrapy_of_india_desc}
This man is the Governor of India. One of the strategical satrapies of the Empire, so the main concern of the Satrap is the security of the trade and supression of native tribes.

{baktrian_satrapy_of_india_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{baktrian_satrapy_of_arachosia} Strategos tes Arachosias

{baktrian_satrapy_of_arachosia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Arachosia. "White India" as the Parthians call it.

{baktrian_satrapy_of_arachosia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{baktrian_satrapy_of_daha} Strategos tes Daais

{baktrian_satrapy_of_daha_desc}
This man is the Governor of Dāha. One of the strategical satrapies of the Empire, so the main concern of the Satrap is the defence of his realm.

{baktrian_satrapy_of_daha_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{epirot_archistrategos} Archistratêgos

{epirot_archistrategos_desc}
This man has been appointed as the Commander-in-Chief of all Epirot armies.

{epirot_archistrategos_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +2 Command, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{epirot_dioiketes} Dioiketes

{epirot_dioiketes_desc}
Minister of Finance of Hellenic factions.

{epirot_dioiketes_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{epirot_satrapy_of_makedonia} Strategos tes Makedonias

{epirot_satrapy_of_makedonia_desc}
This man is the satrap of Makedonia. His charge is the administration and protection of the true homeland of Megas Alexandros.

{epirot_satrapy_of_makedonia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{epirot_satrapy_of_thraikia} Strategos tes Thraikias

{epirot_satrapy_of_thraikia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Thraikia. Thanks to its jeopolitical position the Governor may live in a very luxurious life at the expense of constant danger that any enemy would be very happy to have this province for themselves!

{epirot_satrapy_of_thraikia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{epirot_satrapy_of_mikra_asia} Strategos tes Mikras Asias

{epirot_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_desc}
The governor of Mikra Asia, this man controls the land west of the Tauros Mountains. His job is to protect and maintain this diverse and large peninsula from the many potential enemies on and around the peninsula.

{epirot_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{epirot_satrapy_of_kappadokia} Strategos tes Kappadokias

{epirot_satrapy_of_kappadokia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Kappadokia. One of the strategical satrapies of the Empire, so the main concern of the Satrap is the defence of his realm.

{epirot_satrapy_of_kappadokia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{hellenic_archistrategos} Archistratêgos

{hellenic_archistrategos_desc}
This man has been appointed as the Commander-in-Chief of all Koinon Hellenion armies.

{hellenic_archistrategos_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +2 Command, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{hellenic_dioiketes} Dioiketes

{hellenic_dioiketes_desc}
Minister of Finance of Hellenic factions.

{hellenic_dioiketes_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{hellenic_satrapy_of_makedonia} Strategos tes Makedonias

{hellenic_satrapy_of_makedonia_desc}
This man is the satrap of Makedonia. His charge is the administration and protection of the true homeland of Megas Alexandros.

{hellenic_satrapy_of_makedonia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{hellenic_satrapy_of_thraikia} Strategos tes Thraikias

{hellenic_satrapy_of_thraikia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Thraikia. Thanks to its jeopolitical position the Governor may live in a very luxurious life at the expense of constant danger that any enemy would be very happy to have this province for themselves!

{hellenic_satrapy_of_thraikia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{hellenic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia} Strategos tes Mikras Asias

{hellenic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_desc}
The governor of Mikra Asia, this man controls the land west of the Tauros Mountains. His job is to protect and maintain this diverse and large peninsula from the many potential enemies on and around the peninsula.

{hellenic_satrapy_of_mikra_asia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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{hellenic_satrapy_of_kappadokia} Strategos tes Kappadokias

{hellenic_satrapy_of_kappadokia_desc}
This man is the Governor of Kappadokia. One of the strategical satrapies of the Empire, so the main concern of the Satrap is the defence of his realm.

{hellenic_satrapy_of_kappadokia_effects_desc}
+3 Influence, +1 Management, +1 Morale for all troops on the battlefield.

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Interesting traits, though I advise you to change the "Startegos" (General) for "Satrapes" (Satrap).

Maion

like : Satrapeia Armenias or Satrapeia tes Armenias?

EB Team used these for original titles themselves for AS that I did not touch them:

Archon tes Makedonias
Archon tes Aigyptou
Strategos tou Indou
Epistrategos tes Mikras Asias
Satrapeia Baktrias

P.S. These are ancillaries BTW:yes:

OK ancillaries, my bad. Archon is correct as well and, as I said 2 posts above, the "tes" or "ton" are unneccesary.

Maion

thanks mate :egypt: