1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

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07-27-2009, 19:33
Slaists

1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

I'm not sure if this is a balancing result or just an oversight. Since 1.3, I have noticed that for some factions the upkeep of the general's unit has become quite cheap (about 90 per turn). However, some factions (Ottomans being the particular example I have in mind) seem to still have "the old" upkeep: around 300 per turn.
07-27-2009, 19:40
Fisherking

Re: 1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

Different government types have modifiers for upkeep, however, I have not looked at the Turks. Usually absolute monarchies have lower upkeep than the others, why the Turks should be more expensive is beyond me.

Maybe Jack can tell us if he chimes in.
07-27-2009, 20:46
Slaists

Re: 1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

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Originally Posted by Fisherking

Different government types have modifiers for upkeep, however, I have not looked at the Turks. Usually absolute monarchies have lower upkeep than the others, why the Turks should be more expensive is beyond me.

Maybe Jack can tell us if he chimes in.

Yes, different government types do have different upkeep. However, 90 upkeep I believe, I saw playing either with Prussia or with Sweden whereas 300+ upkeep, playing as Ottomans. All 3 are Absolute Monarchies.

Also, the government type modifier is not so big to justify 90 versus 300+ difference.
07-27-2009, 23:24
Prussian to the Iron

Re: 1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

are the difficulties the same?

ive never had above 90 upkeep for generals, in any campaign, with any faction.
07-28-2009, 03:35
Slaists

Re: 1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

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Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

are the difficulties the same?

ive never had above 90 upkeep for generals, in any campaign, with any faction.

yes, difficulties are the same. both are VH. try ottomans.
07-28-2009, 14:41
Slaists

Re: 1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

Yes, I just checked Fussil's unit guide for version 1.3. Ottoman general is the only one left with 320 (base) upkeep. All other factions have 90 upkeep for their generals (with about the same stats) except for the elephant riding gens. They have upkeep of 100. I guess, another CA bug: they forgot to update the Ottoman generals in line with everyone else.
07-28-2009, 17:23
Prussian to the Iron

Re: 1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

i never really liked the ottoman lineup honestly. however, with the AUM mod they get some pretty nice units. i might try them after my Prussian campaign, when I eventually eliminate them :devil::devil::laugh3:!!!!
07-28-2009, 20:28
Slaists

Re: 1.3 general unit's upkeep: different for different factions

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Originally Posted by Prussian Iron

i never really liked the ottoman lineup honestly. however, with the AUM mod they get some pretty nice units. i might try them after my Prussian campaign, when I eventually eliminate them :devil::devil::laugh3:!!!!

Lineup maybe is not optimal, but the Ottomans surely is one of the most (if not the most) fun factions to play. A lot of diverse enemies around + a very complicated political situation + the economy sucks at the start. All that forces the Ottomans to rely a lot on crap soldiers, which, in my opinion, provides interesting "on the edge" feel battles. That necessity to use crap soldiers was what caused me to complain about the upkeep of the general's unit. General is crucial for the Ottomans (to boost the morale of peasants).