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07-27-2009, 21:31
WImPyTjeH

OT: Belgium discussion

I split the Belgian talk from the Where is EB made thread.
- Krusader

Aha! I see one fellow countryman :D Moros, where are you from?
07-28-2009, 14:01
Moros

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by WImPyTjeH

Aha! I see one fellow countryman :D Moros, where are you from?

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07-28-2009, 18:27
Jolt

Re: Where is EB made?

Moros is from Jan 2005! :laugh4:

Such a ripe age and already knowing so much!
07-28-2009, 19:06
Moros

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Jolt

Moros is from Jan 2005! :laugh4:

Such a ripe age and already knowing so much!

Yeah well I'm going for Mensa presidency when I get 6.

Edit: anyway. Perhaps we should leave Mensa and polar bears aside for now.
07-28-2009, 23:43
WImPyTjeH

Re: Where is EB made?

Weird, I usually see more people asking things like: "Belgium... isn't that a city in France? Or isn't that the capital of Brussels" when I speak about it :inquisitive::grin:
07-29-2009, 04:53
antisocialmunky

Re: Where is EB made?

Can you send me some chocolate, Moros?
07-29-2009, 21:32
WImPyTjeH

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Can you send me some chocolate, Moros?

Or beer?
07-30-2009, 14:22
Mediolanicus

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by WImPyTjeH

Weird, I usually see more people asking things like: "Belgium... isn't that a city in France? Or isn't that the capital of Brussels" when I speak about it :inquisitive::grin:

People who play EB usually know where Belgica is, so...

From which part of Belgium are you?
07-30-2009, 16:33
Moros

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

People who play EB usually know where Belgica is, so...

From which part of Belgium are you?

Yeah that's right you were as well, were you not?
07-30-2009, 16:44
Mediolanicus

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Moros

Yeah that's right you were as well, were you not?

Yep, from the village of escaped convicts and baby-killers.
07-30-2009, 17:33
Moros

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

Yep, from the village of escaped convicts and baby-killers.

Oh yeah. :embarassed:
07-30-2009, 18:31
Watchman

Re: Where is EB made?

Sounds like a prime vacation spot. :rockstar:
07-30-2009, 21:07
WImPyTjeH

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

People who play EB usually know where Belgica is, so...

From which part of Belgium are you?

Flemish Brabant (Vlaams Brabant for you probably :P) - Zemst
07-31-2009, 01:12
Andy1984

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

Yep, from the village of escaped convicts and baby-killers.

which one?
07-31-2009, 08:16
Mediolanicus

Re: Where is EB made?

The village of escaped convicts and baby-killers.
07-31-2009, 14:07
antisocialmunky

Re: Where is EB made?

Wait, Belgium is a constitutional monarchy? I thought it was a republic '.'.
07-31-2009, 14:13
Watchman

Re: Where is EB made?

You mean there's some meaningful difference ?
07-31-2009, 14:45
antisocialmunky

Re: Where is EB made?

One has a heriditary group of people to feed, one that I didn't know existed.
07-31-2009, 15:37
Phalanx300

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by WImPyTjeH

Flemish Brabant (Vlaams Brabant for you probably :P) - Zemst

I always dislike to see those old provinces devided, I'm kind of hoping for the Netherlands and Flanders to join together, then we could have non devided provinces again. :idea2:
07-31-2009, 16:25
Horatius Flaccus

Re: Where is EB made?

Bah, Flemish people in our mighty little country? :clown:
07-31-2009, 16:37
Mediolanicus

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Wait, Belgium is a constitutional monarchy? I thought it was a republic '.'.

Yes, Belgium is a kingdom. A federal constitutional monarchy to be exact.

The communities and region do have a minister-president each. For Flanders this is Kris Peeters at the moment.

(Yes the Belgium structure of the state is unexplainable to foreigners... Though I can always try - it's my area of expertise after all.)

Maybe that's why you thought it was a republic.

Where going off topic, aren't we?

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Originally Posted by Watchman

You mean there's some meaningful difference ?

Well, except for putting his autograph under federal laws.. not really...
Not since Leopold II bought his own little private playground which Belgium than had to take over after his death.

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Originally Posted by Phalanx300

I always dislike to see those old provinces devided, I'm kind of hoping for the Netherlands and Flanders to join together, then we could have non devided provinces again. :idea2:

That would give the same problems as the current division in Belgium. Different history, different culture, even different language - although both are Dutch.

yep, definitely off topic...
07-31-2009, 19:00
antisocialmunky

Re: Where is EB made?

So its basically a feudal structure with the Democracy Service Pack 2?
07-31-2009, 19:31
Mediolanicus

Re: Where is EB made?

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So its basically a feudal structure with the Democracy Service Pack 2?

No, because the communities and the regions aren't hierarchically under or above the federation
07-31-2009, 20:11
Watchman

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

So its basically a feudal structure with the Democracy Service Pack 2?

*cough* Please re-read the definition of feudalism. PROTIP: incompatible with the Westphalian sovereign state.
07-31-2009, 21:11
Tellos Athenaios

Re: Where is EB made?

There is no Feudal Structure in Belgium. Belgium is composed of 2 or 3 ("republics") which in turn make up the federation; much like the USA is comprised of fairly autonomous S-thingies, you know Utah, Wisconsin and the like. The monarchy is merely a decorative thing: a bit like if we are going to throw money away via a President who is bound to make a "favour" or two, why not do it legally ... and simply pay the clan an over-the-top salary and expense-claims?
07-31-2009, 21:19
Mediolanicus

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios

There is no Feudal Structure in Belgium. Belgium is composed of 2 or 3 ("republics") which in turn make up the federation; much like the USA is comprised of fairly autonomous S-thingies, you know Utah, Wisconsin and the like.

Yeah, overly simplyfied, but that's the broad picture.
08-01-2009, 00:34
antisocialmunky

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

No, because the communities and the regions aren't hierarchically under or above the federation

Okay, I see. You learn something new everyday. You guys could have just said federation of republics. I thought you were talking about some sort of 3-4 tiered hierarchy of federal government that went down to the city level or something.:laugh4:
08-01-2009, 12:59
Skullheadhq

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Okay, I see. You learn something new everyday. You guys could have just said federation of republics. I thought you were talking about some sort of 3-4 tiered hierarchy of federal government that went down to the city level or something.:laugh4:

Belgian system is extremely complex, don't try to uderstand it, since it won't exist anymore in 20 years or something
08-01-2009, 14:54
Alsatia

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Skullheadhq

Belgian system is extremely complex, don't try to uderstand it, since it won't exist anymore in 20 years or something

Had a quick look at wikipedia. Seems similar to the system in Australia.
08-01-2009, 23:04
Phalanx300

Re: Where is EB made?

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Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

That would give the same problems as the current division in Belgium. Different history, different culture, even different language - although both are Dutch.

Not really, we have a great shared History, culture and language. We are one people, mainly Frankish. :dizzy2:

And besides, our parts of Brabant and Liburg are basicly the same as Flanders and they do just fine, or better then fine. And the people of Zeeuws-Vlaanderen, they are Flemish and also no problems, things better then fine.

I always see the Netherlans as different Provinces united in one country. I don't really see it Dutch and Flemish. Rather: Hollandic, Frisian, Brabantic, Limburgic, Flemish etc.

I mean this map is pretty good proof of the Low Lands:

https://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3140/lagelanden.png

There is no clear devision between Northern and Southern, it actually goes combined.

I gues its a big dream to one day see all the Provinces united, how Willem van Oranje wanted it as well. :sweatdrop:

Edit: Its a picture from 14th century, so it definately goes back a long way.

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