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You gotta love it when Anonymous picks a new target. Apparently this thing hatched on Fark four days ago, and it's now all over the internets.
The poll.
The website.
Ars Technica weighs in.
Yahoo answers (that font of disinformation).
Gawker.
Classic Anonymous video.
First the RIAA, then Scientology, and now Glenn Beck. I heart Anonymous.
People really seem to get a kick out of branding us all as Glenn Beck or something, as though his actions a decade ago have some great bearing on Conservatism.
Seriously, are all leftists Michael Moore? "You voted for Obama; you must be a big fat slob."
Eh... no.
But, truth, the guy does seem a bit of a liability lately.
Seems like they went a little to far over the line. I'm fine when it's parody but it needs to be obvious.
Oh, I think the latest Anonymous campaign is quite clearly focused on the man, and not on "conservatism" (whatever you happen to mean by using that word). Beck is notorious for "asking questions" to slime public figures. Giving him a taste of his own methodology seems more appropriate than not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariovistus Maximus
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Originally Posted by Lemur
Fair enough.
I don't really follow him myself, and when I have he does seem a bit borderline.
The problem with the talk-show lot is that their whole job is to get a reaction, after all. And this can lead to some rather excessive behavior. :thumbsdown:
What goes around comes around. :yes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbg604XqPY
Just ran across that video. Please, somebody make my day and punch this ridiculously stupid person in the eye so everyone can laugh when he gets a black eye. I could tell when I first saw this guy on tv that he is a massive douchebag, and everything I heard since then has only proven it.
Actual Glenn Beck video.
Worthwhile parody.
For those who aren't familiar with GB, the above clip should give you some notion of how he operates.
Here he is describing how Obama is creating a secret private army to do something or another. Well, he doesn't say it, he asks a lot of questions about it.
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I note that a number of news sites are referring to this act of creative vandalism as "liberal" this-that-or-the-other. I guess they've never heard of Anonymous.
The tactic, the whole "I'm just asking questions; why won't he deny it?" is funny, but the material is a bit far. Killing and raping a girl? That goes a bit beyond the boundary of satire to me.
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Anonymous strikes again! Hehe.
Brilliant! :laugh4:
Satire is a dangerous weapon, that should only be deployed to an educated audience.
I fear that between libellous wickedness like the above and Mr Beck's own seditious lies, the very foundations of the United States are being destroyed. I cannot believe that "conservatives" would support the blatant attacks upon the presidency seen in those clips (so now even Congressmen shout "you lie" in the heart of government) and even worse, those of the left supporting the incrimination of a public figure without trial or evidence. And this in a world where the ignorant mob burns paediatricians from their homes. :no:
Freedom of speech is a very precious commodity - using it to polarise opinion amongst the masses will result in civil strife and the death of democracy.
Fascinating. In my view the reverse applies. Democracy is the means (and the only acceptable means) by which we control polarisation in society and make it manageable. If it were not for democracy, we would witness civil strife and violence throughout our societies every day. And it requires that we bring or keep contentious issues and differences of opinion out in the open so we can find some mode of accommodation for them lest they become too explosive to handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
This Glenn Beck reminds me of some of the people you can find on youtube who stock up on weapons to fight Obama's New World Order etc. :inquisitive:
Most of them would watch Glenn Beck regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
American Politics amuses me greatly.
Now that's a rather excessively broad statement. No one I know is stocking up on guns to fight Obama. In fact they are generally of the oppinion that he's a one-term type of guy. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Well, it is a show, after all...Quote:
American Politics amuses me greatly.
Just another soap opera for people to check up on every now and then.
And I'm serious that this is the mentality that seems to be growing.
Doing the exact same thing glenn beck does isn't really satire. It's just doing the same thing glenn beck does.
Colbert doesn't come out and imitate O'reilly exactly.
I did what every responsible journalist does. I killed a gerbil and inspected its entrails, then smoked cannabis and studied my cristal bowl.
And yes, I found that not only is Glenn Beck guilty as hell of raping and killing a girl in 1990, but he also deliberately spread rumours about it to spite his mother.
So, um, who is Glenn Beck?
I just wish he would release the documents that prove he didn't rape and kill a girl in 1990. The fact that he has not issued a statement on the matter is troubling.
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Originally Posted by Adrian II
AWESOME!!!
Have a balloon: :balloon:
I'm sorry, satire is one thing, but this is disgusting. That is something you just don't accuse people of. Some of you (especially the lefties, naturally) are revelling in this, but this is nasty and bordering on cruel. How would you like it if they targeted Michael Moore? He's practically the left-wing equivalent of Glenn Beck. Unless you can find me video evidence that Glenn Beck accused someone else of this, this is completely out of line.
EDIT: And I'm more than a little surprised that a mod posted this, when at Paradox most ordinary members were shocked and asking to have it taken down (and most of them aren't exactly right-wing). I was hoping that people here would have a little more decency. I guess not.
No, it's not. I'm talking about specific people, how is that broad? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariovistus Maximus
Look for EndTimeWatchman on Youtube, he even made a video where he presented all his guns and explained their merits and that the New world Order won't get him without a fight. I'm sure all conservatives are like this*. :juggle2:
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Originally Posted by Husar
Very well. Well, I'm sorry to have misunderstood you but such statements could be taken to paint a group. Or so I have seen in discussions like this. But I was wrong here. :bow:
There are indeed some whackos out there who dream of fighting FBI agents as they come to drag them away for reeducation... but then there are also people who form discussion groups that worship trees and ask their forgiveness for the lumber business.
It is nothing to do with left or right-wing. The accusation phrased as a question, is parodying Beck himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
The solution is easy, Beck apologises and quits doing such stupid things. Instead, he is trying to file lawl-suits against the website owner.
It does have something to do with left and right-wing, but that is neither here or there. Comedy is all well and good, but this is going too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I think it's disgusting how Glenn Beck is allowed to go on tele and fling all these unfounded accusations at various people, destroying their reputation with everyone gullible enough to believe him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
It's the job of comedy to push boundaries and get us to move beyond them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
This is more along the line's of Beck's now (partly) infamous tactic of presenting an over the top argument, accusing his opponent of something absolutely made up and then end it with "I'm not saying he is, I'm just saying." The thing people link to most is Beck on Fox and Friends* where he does this exact thing in regards to Obama and the president's perceived racism, Beck's not saying he's racist, just that he has a problem with whites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Is Anonymous going too far in their satire and "turn about is fair play" method of trolling? I honestly don't know. Some of the things both sides say now days about each other have the effect of completely turning me off politics. If you were to find it too much, i can hardly claim you're wrong or missing the joke.
Well sir, good day to you too. *tips top hat, twirls cane*Quote:
EDIT: And I'm more than a little surprised that a mod posted this, when at Paradox most ordinary members were shocked and asking to have it taken down (and most of them aren't exactly right-wing). I was hoping that people here would have a little more decency. I guess not.
*full video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ndc2LX2u98&NR=1
Well, don't we all. It doesn't make the response right.Quote:
Originally Posted by miotas
Some boundaries should stay. Like saying that people rape and murder girls when they don't. If Glenn Beck did this I'd be just as angry with him.Quote:
It's the job of comedy to push boundaries and get us to move beyond them.
I missed the part where he accused Obama of a rape and murder...Quote:
Originally Posted by Monk
Then I wouldn't be surprised if you felt the site is going too far. The accusations are purposefully overblown in attempt to show how deplorable the method is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
I never claimed Beck said those things.