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What is it ?
Does it come in different flavours?
Can it be bought and sold?
What does it taste like?
Difficult questions that have puzzled generations of humans.
But there are simpler questions.
Like for example
How can someone who doesn't know christian scripture, who also doesn't know the origins of the scripture they don't know, claim to be a Christian and be basing their beliefs on their knowledge and understanding of a book they clearly don't know or understand?
If all of those things apply to someone, they believe out of faith and that is good enough for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
They believe in an all powerful God in comparison to a life of random consequence and no real direction or purpose.
"It made every tribe be without peace.
Twas a sad evil!
Brave Gaels used to worship it.p. 287
From it they would not without tribute ask
To be satisfied as to their portion of the hard world.
He was their god
. . . .
To him without glory
They would kill their piteous wretched offspring
With much wailing and peril
To pour their blood around Cromm Cruaich.
Milk and corn
They would ask from him speedily
In return for one-third of their healthy (or whole) issue:
Great was the horror and the scare of him
To him
Noble Gaels would prostrate themselves;
From the worship of him with many manslaughters
The plain is called Mag Slecht."
Heretic the great God Crom is all powerfull believe he left us so many signs on the landscape of Ireland it is undeniable.:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Sorry I couldnt resist it really
bollox
Cuthulu will crush you for your questioning!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Repent, prepare yourself for madness and you shall be eaten first!
Seriously though; surely you are not so sad that you have to create additional threads to troll people, after trolling the threads they started? Surely no one can be so starved for attention - can they?
CR
^ he is literally making a additional trolling thread to add to the trolling he had in another thread. he plans to create a massive trolling empire.
I think his objective is to make people cry and be the only remaining orgah willing to speak......
Hey it isn't trolling , I didn't mention homeskoolin' at allQuote:
he is literally making a additional trolling thread to add
Truly you are a model of self-restraint.
CR
I'm a baptist. As long as we give money and sweat in service we're ok.
Why do Baptists object so strongly to pre-marital sex?
They're afraid it might lead to drinking and dancing.
How many of Baptists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
FORNICATION! It's a sin to screw anywhere, even in light bulbs.
I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing
on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said "Stop!
don't do it!"
"Why shouldn't I?" he said.
I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"
He said, "Like what?"
I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"
He said, "Religious."
I said, "Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?"
He said,"Christian."
I said, "Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?"
He said, "Protestant."
I said, "Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?"
He said, "Baptist!"
I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or
baptist church of the lord?"
He said, "Baptist church of god!"
I said, "Me too! Are you original baptist church of god,
or are you reformed baptist church of god?"
He said,"Reformed Baptist church of god!"
I said, "Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god,
reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god,
reformation of 1915?"
He said, "Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!"
I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
A belief thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
1. we are all born defective (bad) due to an inherited mistake made by the very first man, who dared to will some action that made him (and us) knowledgeable of good and evil. and
2. the way to make up for that original horrible mistake is totally beyond our ability as individual humans, so
3. some other, better guy, born not as a result of (nasty) sex, but some other invisible power, had to live 30-some years, then die a torturous death in a Roman outpost, in order to satisfy the Maker of Everything, and good and evil, that the debt incurred by First Man was paid, and therefore every human born subsequent to that payment got a free ride to something called "salvation", wherein humans still somehow exist after they stop breathing and live in a nice place. Forever. But:
4. thrown into the salvation mix is: how humans behave while they are still breathing, despite the pre-payment/sacrifice/death of that "better guy". If a human lies, cheats, steals, diss's the maker of everything, or Mom or Pop, or has sex outside of marriage, or doesn't believe 1, 2, & 3, he/she is gonna go (when he/she stops breathing) to a very bad place. Forever.
Given the requirements of belief above, is it any wonder that humans pick and choose 'wise words', pay attention to or ignore 'wise guys', comply or not comply with various rules of behavior, truly deeply believe or just go along with the majority?Quote:
Originally Posted by OP
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Full Disclosure: I am not a Christian, though I was ostensibly raised/educated as one. The above is my impression of what Christianity "is" from the point-of-view of an outsider.
It is well known that believers use a different world view than the unbelievers.
What the believers consider fact or knowledge is based on completely different parameters than say mainstream science.
Usually this involves feelings or other "spiritual" testimonies that encapsulates this esoteric knowledge involving a greater being with creating power.
Having this in mind it becomes useless to engage in a discussion where the unbelief debater holds a Scientific world view and the belief debater holds a Christian world view.
There are many people who manages to use these world views interchangeably. They live with two world views and seemingly manages to keep them apart ... or maybe not. This is a paradox.
On one hand you can't use scientific argumentation to "prove" or disprove religion, but on the other hand, there are a great many religious scientists.
They use the scientific philosophy in their work, but on Sundays, they worship the creator of all.
Deep inside they must justify everything to God - every new scientific discovery originates with God -
and if I could quote a specific Congolese defense lawyer: Pardon my French - they are truly living a schizophrenic life.
Since we are on the subject of Christianity - we can't omit the Bible. The OP asks why someone who doesn't really know their Bible (in an unbiblical way) and/or doesn't know the origins of the Bible - still believes in their particular brand of Christianity.
There are too many people in the world who base their lives on tradition. They inherit their way of life from parents who inherited it from their parents back to the convert ancestor, who made a conscious decision to join an organization based outwardly on the good word of a Saviour, but truly on maybe something more sinister like exploiting.
There are around 35 000 brands or organisations based outwardly on the good word found in a book which enlightened people realize have no original manuscript and has been tampered with since the day it was first written.
The majority of the members of those 35 000 denominations perhaps do not know this, but there are those who do and still follow its teachings.
I have tried to understand this, but fail to do so. There must be something else besides this Great Christian paradox - which is the foundation on which these denominations build their church, their priesthood and gospel - that creates this unshaken faith on a Jesus that will save them from the grave.
Maybe it is the human unwillingness to submit to oblivion upon death that feeds this need to believe in the hereafter.
IMO - without religion, there would be a great many depressed souls in this world.
I believe in trolls. I have evidence.
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