Help me out with a stumper of a question!

I am a sophmore in texas and we just finished reading Shakespeare's Henry V. Everyone knows that the implementation of longbows in the battle of Agincourt was the beginning of the end of knights. Well I asked my teacher then if there was a battle where guns marked the beginning of the end of swords and missiles. He could not give me a definite answer so chose to give it to me as extra credit.

So I ask this of you fellow MTWer's. Please help me out with any possible information you might know for this and I will be forever indebted to you. You can either choose to post it in here or you can e-mail me at avilleda@rgv.rr.com . I would like to thank everyone in advance for helping out.

For Japan and the far East one could arguably say it was at the battle of Nagashino (June 28, 1575). There Oda Nobunaga employed 3000 arquebusiers in his relief force of 30,000 against the forces of Takeda Katsuyori (12,000), who was laying siege to a castle of Tokugawa Ieyasu.
The renowned attacks by the Takeda cavalry were stopped cold by Nobunaga's force of arquebusiers, who were waiting behind prepared defenses. Takeda Katsuyori lost up to 80% of his army (10,000 men), and the Takeda were done for a long time...

Page about Japanese history related to battles fought with samurai troops (brilliant site)

As far as I know, there has not realy been a battle in Europe that stands out as the turning point. It looks more as a gradual process which took place from the beginning of the 16th century (ie. battle of Pavia, 1525) or around that time, to the late 17th century... In the armies of the English Civil war, pikemen still made up a high percentage of both armies IIRC...



Publishers site of decent to good books dealing with battles/campaigns/equipment

History channel Message Board. There are also some knowledgable posters on that board....

Michiel de Ruyter : Thank you so much for the ffort you have taken.

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Quote[/b] (gabrielvilleda @ Jan. 26 2003,19:59)]I am a sophmore in texas and we just finished reading Shakespeare's Henry V. Everyone knows that the implementation of longbows in the battle of Agincourt was the beginning of the end of knights.

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Well, the first battle where the longbow dominated on continental Europe was actually at Crecy in 1346. Henry V just had a larger percentage of longbowmen.

Coincidentally, Crecy was possibly the first firing of a cannon in a pitched battle. Edward III had a few of these stashed at the bottom of the supply wagons and had carted them around France. The only effect that they had was one of fear (much like MTW cannons).

The forst cannons used in sieges in real life were used against personell not fortification as in MTW.
Just saying.
I'd say pavia.