Romani have a type I government in Capua?

I'm not familiar with the situation in 272BC, but AFAK when Hannibal invaded Italy, Capua was still a highly autonomous city, more an ally than a province to Rome. They had their own senate and army, so they revolted to Hannibal with more inner trouble than intervention from Rome.
In fact, should Romani have a type I government anywhere but Roma itself?

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Originally Posted by Julianus

I'm not familiar with the situation in 272BC, but AFAK when Hannibal invaded Italy, Capua was still a highly autonomous city, more an ally than a province to Rome. They had their own senate and army, so they revolted to Hannibal with more inner trouble than intervention from Rome.
In fact, should Romani have a type I government anywhere but Roma itself?

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A Type I government is an Italian Regional Government, which is clearly approporiate for Capua. It is true that Capua was highly autonomous, but that describes most cities of Roman Italy in this time period. Particularly in the 3rd C BC, Rome's interference in the internal affairs of most Italian cities was minimal. These cities had their own local governing bodies and magistrates, though they deferred to Rome in foreign affairs and matters of war and peace.

Unlike most Italian cities however, the people of Capua (and of most of Campania) were actually Roman citizens. After the Latin war, which concluded in 338 BC, the Campanian knights recieved full Roman citizenship (Livy 8.11), and the rest of the people received civitates sine suffragio, Roman citizenship without voting rights (Livy 8.14).

I get your point, but with a type I government Romani can raise the same legions in Capua, Ariminium, Arretium, Apulia as in Rome, while I wonder if this is historical.
I believe troops supplied by allied cities were clearly distinguished from Roman legions raised in the City, they were auxilia, not the same Hastati, Principle, Triarii.

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Originally Posted by Julianus

I get your point, but with a type I government Romani can raise the same legions in Capua, Ariminium, Arretium, Apulia as in Rome, while I wonder if this is historical.
I believe troops supplied by allied cities were clearly distinguished from Roman legions raised in the City, they were auxilia, not the same Hastati, Principle, Triarii.

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There is a minimod for that. But it makes it even worse :sweatdrop:
Now you get Samniti troops everywhere^^

Yeah, I'm also finding things not to like about that mod.

The solution is just to build core roman troops only in Roma for awhile.

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Originally Posted by Julianus

I get your point, but with a type I government Romani can raise the same legions in Capua, Ariminium, Arretium, Apulia as in Rome, while I wonder if this is historical.
I believe troops supplied by allied cities were clearly distinguished from Roman legions raised in the City, they were auxilia, not the same Hastati, Principle, Triarii.

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I'm not sure about the recruitment options, but you can always destroy the type I government and build a new one. Following this you can choose whichever type of government you think would be best at that time. Once you decide that it's time to integrate Capua fully you can destroy the government and install type I again.

I'm just not sure of recruitment options in Capua with different types of governments. Just take a look at recruitment viewer and it should show what's possible to recruit.

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Originally Posted by Julianus

I get your point, but with a type I government Romani can raise the same legions in Capua, Ariminium, Arretium, Apulia as in Rome, while I wonder if this is historical.
I believe troops supplied by allied cities were clearly distinguished from Roman legions raised in the City, they were auxilia, not the same Hastati, Principle, Triarii.

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Our Hastati, Principes, and Triarii are intended to represent the bulk of both Roman and Allied contingents.

Roughly 30% of the allies accompanying a Roman army were Latins. In 272 BC, a large majority of Latins were colonists who were distributed throughout Roman-controlled Italy. Almost all Latin colonists were the descendants of Roman citizens or had once been Roman citizens themselves (Livy 9.24, 9.26, 27.9). Consequently, the Latins were equipped and organized in the same way the Romans were.

It's also clear from the description of a number of battles (Ilipa comes to mind), and from Polybios' description of the army on the march that the entire army, including the alae, was arranged in three lines. This suggests that the non-Latin allies contributed soldiers who fought in essentially the same way as the Hastati, Principes, and Triarii.