March of Time CTD (Pahlava)

I'm playing as Pahlava and as Capua turns from a large city to a huge city my game CTDs invariably. The year is 237, but I can make it happen earlier by using the process_cq cheat. I see the city turn huge, and then the game crashes the following turn.

Any idea what could cause this or how I can work around it? I've got plenty of save games.

Thanks

I would suggest going back to a earlier save, to try if that works and using "add_population Capua 4000" and process_cq to speed this progress up. If you wish you can also upload a save just the point before it crashes to give other players the chance to try it with their build.

XSamatan

Thanks for the reply!

I tried your advice, going back six years. I sped up the process, but again, as soon as Capua goes Huge, the game crashes.

Here is a link to my save game file.
http://www.filefront.com/15043351/pah237.rar

If you or someone else could give it a whirl, I'd appreciate it. I have not had a problem with other factions.

Hi milt,

I tried your save on both RTW/ALEX and both Win7/Vista.

With ALEX it loads and crashes instantly, with RTW it does not even load the save.

:wall: sad

Do you have another save to try with?

XSamatan

Maybe building it by yourself could also help.

Go to "\EB\Data\scripts\show_me" and open "genericScript.txt". backup!

Add under the line "console_command toggle_perfect_spy" the following:

console_command control seleucid

save and exit.

Start the game and load a save, press F1 on your keyboard, then the question mark button and finally show me. Now you should get control of the Romans.
Build the huge city.

To get back to your beloved horse-riders simply change "seleucid" to "parthia".

Hope it works,

XSamatan

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Originally Posted by XSamatan

Hi milt,

I tried your save on both RTW/ALEX and both Win7/Vista.

With ALEX it loads and crashes instantly, with RTW it does not even load the save.

:wall: sad

Do you have another save to try with?

XSamatan

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Thanks XSamatan. You're a lifesaver.

I'm using Alex with Lz3's mini mod pack. I'm guessing this makes my save incompatible with your configuration.

I've uploaded another save game just in case.


http://www.filefront.com/15046835/pah243.rar


I'll try your instructions switching factions back and forth. Since I've only had this problem with Pahlava, this should theoretically work.

Edit: Nope, still crashes as the turn comes back around to me. I'll try it on an earlier save.

Edit2: I've tried this on two earlier saves to no avail. I'm sure it is the March of Times, but perhaps something in conjunction with it. The game always crashes after a Roman city turns huge, during or immediately after the Eleutheroi turn.

The only thing I can think of that is out of the norm, is that Saka never got its reforms as gained the requisite cities before them.


Other bugs in my game.

1. Conquered provinces are not developing, at least for the Romani. They are "stuck" attempting to repair foreign governments in Taras, Bononia and (all?) other conquered cities. This seems like a very serious bug in an of itself. If I am the only one with this bug, I need to do a new install, as this explains why they weren't developing cities in my Carthage game.

They are riding these cities hard, to the point of revolt. I reduced population in them, but that did not help with the CTD.

2. The Pahlava reforms seems to have a bug, where you are allowed to build "Reformed Pastoralism" before "Warlords Horse Herds." This means an "advanced government" will not be possible, unless the player knows to build them first, because RP caps the herds and they are needed for the aristocracy for the new government.

Thanks again.

I think it crushes at the beginning of your turn (which is after the eleutheroi), so it could be linked to your new bodyguards (pahlava gets new bg, right?). I do not have any clue to solve your problem, to be honest, and due to all the changes with your minimods it might be very difficult to find the bug here.

concerning governements:
the script spawns new gov's for the AI, is it only the Romans who are stuck with that or all factions?

concerning pahlava reform:
I do not know much about them, but if also the saka reforms did not happen (and this reform is such easy), I would guess you have some missing/corrupt reform triggers in your game

In that case IMHO your game is lost and the better way is to reinstall.

I'll have to ask it:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

you activated the script, did you?

XSamatan

Thanks for all the help. But you are right and something must really be wrong with my install, since I can't see a bug, where no faction (or at least some factions) can build cities after conquest.

Strange since I saw the Romani do quite well in Gaul.

Yes, my script was active. The only reason Saka did not get their reforms was that I held the lands they needed for it. All other reforms seemed to work properly, even the Pahvala reforms, which do however have the minor bug I pointed out.. I was just trying to figure out what made this game different from an earlier game.

Another bug I noticed, for the sake of thoroughness, is that Arab lands have no recruitable generals with type four governments.

Thanks again!

I dot not know what changes come from the implementation of this mod-pack, so you can of course ask the creator. A crash related to the Marian Reforms is something strange to me, but since you are just in the early 30', you can install new, I'll guess that is is an individual bug, but that is a guess.

Have fun with EB,

XSamatan

EDIT: the missing client rulers are known, see this: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...t=client+ruler

If the crash is due to a building being finished, there may be too many buildings in that city. What with all the marker buildings spawned by script, this can happen. If you take control of the owning faction and raze all the buildings in that city, does it still happen?