Terry Jones' opinion on The Romaioi.

Has anybody here read Terry Jone's book <Barbarians: An alternative Roman History>? He may be a Monty Python, but his book is well cited and clear in source. He has casted much counter-arguments on the Romaioi's perspective of "Barbaroi"; implied how the One True Barbaroi are the Romaioi themselves: their whole existance subsists on killing and plundering all the other people....often more advance and sophistacated than themselves. He later on dips into Christianity and the likes, but I'll not mention them here lest I get burnt on a stake for herecy.

Who's read the book then? (Am I allowed to type up excerpts here?)

And we all know what brilliant historian TJ is...

Will you ever stop this spam?

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Request thread lock as topic is nothing but anti-roman rhetoric.

The mods have been quite clear on the greek vs roman thing and how biased and flaming it is.

I already reported it, and expect Ludens to once again make the Org policy clear (some people just never learn).

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Originally Posted by satalexton

Has anybody here read Terry Jone's book <Barbarians: An alternative Roman History>? He may be a Monty Python, but his book is well cited and clear in source. He has casted much counter-arguments on the Romaioi's perspective of "Barbaroi"; implied how the One True Barbaroi are the Romaioi themselves: their whole existance subsists on killing and plundering all the other people....often more advance and sophistacated than themselves. He later on dips into Christianity and the likes, but I'll not mention them here lest I get burnt on a stake for herecy.

Who's read the book then? (Am I allowed to type up excerpts here?)

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Spunds really interesting, my basileus. Thank you for your sugestion; I'll try to find that book somewhere.

No - no, please NOT Terry Jones.... his medieval "Knight's Tale" alternative interpretation is simply hoorible and full of biased mistake... I do not mean that Romaioi is not a barbaroi... but Terry Jones' reputation in historical essays are simply awful....

*. Read his "Knight's Tale" (Chaucer's Knight: The Portrait of a Medieval Mercenary ) interpretation and you'll see how demented his brain is...

EDIT : Of course, he's right in the matter that Romaioi Barbaroi... but his other writings are definitely pointless....

EDIT AGAIN : Forgive me for this time, but I just can't stand such horrible writers to be cited....

I personally quite enjoyed his TV version of the book(or is it the other way round?). I'm quite clear those who have different ideas than some of us would react violently to this, please don't flame my topic and stay on topic.

So..to the less violent majority :) I think it's ok if I type up the back cover of the book (it's all over on amazon anyway):

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Terry Jones' Barabarians take a completely fresh approach to Roman history. It reveals that most of those written off by Rome as uncivilised, savage and 'barbaric' were in fact organized, motivater and intelligent people, with no intentions of overthrowing Rome and plundering its Empire. In fact, it was the Romans who celebrated savage slaughter and who eventually looted the city of Rome themselves, while leaving a lasting propaganda attacking everyone else.

In this entertaining book, Terry Jones and Alan Ereira have set the record straight. Travelling through 700 years of history across Europe, Asia and Africa, they bring wit, irreverence, passion and the very latest scholarship to transform our view of the much-misunderstood Barbarians

'I have enormously enjoyed this book - it is very lively and really does get to grips with perceptions of the Barbarians. It's just what we need to readdress the balance and to put the Romans in their correct perspective.' Barry Cunliffe, Professor of European Archaeology. University of Oxford

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I have doubt over the 'very latest scholarship' bit. but this book fits quite true to the spirit of EB: to portray the 'Barbaroi' or Europe in a correct light. :)

Why everyone calls treacherous Romans Barbaroi? Oh wait, that`s because they are treacherous...

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Originally Posted by satalexton

Has anybody here read Terry Jone's book <Barbarians: An alternative Roman History>? He may be a Monty Python, but his book is well cited and clear in source. He has casted much counter-arguments on the Romaioi's perspective of "Barbaroi"; implied how the One True Barbaroi are the Romaioi themselves: their whole existance subsists on killing and plundering all the other people....

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Given that his work has been attacked in two recent threads, both of which you participated in, I don't see why you need to bring it up again.

Jones' work fits the spirit of EB in that it wants to give the barbarians their due. However, EB's mission is to give every faction their due. Jones on the other hand seems mostly interested in making the Romans look bad.

Since I don't see this thread going anywhere, I am going to close it. PM if you disagree.