Rome not reading from extracted Folders ?

Hey guys,


I am in the process of replacing some of the Music for RomeTW-vanilla 1.6 gold edition and have ran into a problem.

First i used IDX Extractor to extract the Music, SFX, Voice folders, when this happened they got extracted to : C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data\sounds\data\sounds this diden't seem right to me, as the Descr_sounds_music.txt file path is folder data/sounds/music. :inquisitive:

So logic tells me the correct directory should just be : C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data\sounds So i copied all the extracted folders to that directory, then i added a custom Mp3 into Music and named it Tally-ho it is of course in mp3 format.

Then made the appropriate changes in Descr_sounds_music.txt the changes were :

state MUSIC_PREBATTLE_SCROLL
event fadeout 0
folder data/sounds/music
Tally-ho.mp3


Originally CampaignBattle1-Time_2_Kill.mp3 i thought this would make the game look for my Tally-ho.mp3 instead, but when i test it in-game it still plays the original, presumably from the IDX archives.


I have been doing some research and the only information on the subject was suggesting i Rename the Original archive files, in this case the Music archive so the game does not recognize them. But i am hesitant to try that, i was hoping there was a switch somewhere to make the game read from extracted data instead of the originals.


Any idea what the problem or solution might be ?

Damn! i came this close to posting in the right section this time. Apologies :)

Yes, you need to delete or rename events.dat or any changes to the sound files won't be experienced in game.

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Originally Posted by Squid

Yes, you need to delete or rename events.dat or any changes to the sound files won't be experienced in game.

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Oh joy! Thank you very much, this has saved me much time, it could of saved me 14 failed test results and 3 crashes had i been smart enough to figure it out myself. :)

Sorry to be a pest, but i have another little issue ... i know it diden't take me long to run into more trouble did it. :dizzy2:


I am now actually adding additional music to the Campaign map under ARABIC section for an eastern faction. However i cannot get the music to play in-game, i presume there is a different method for Adding tracks as opposed to replacing them as the above replacement worked fine.


The CAMPMAP playlist looks like this :

state MUSIC_STRATMAP_SUMMER
event delay 5 volume -40
folder data/sounds/music
Dry_Well.mp3
Campaign1-Autumn.mp3
Campaign2-Melancholy.mp3
Campaign4-Lonely_Strategos.mp3
Campaign5-Arabic_Winter.mp3
Campaign6-Arabic_Summer.mp3
Intro_Egyptian.mp3
Intro_Carthage.mp3

Dry_well.mp3 being the additional track, i placed it first in the playlist for testing purposes. When i tested it in-game it played Campaign1-Autumn.mp3 so it seems it doesen't like my song at all.

I notice the original campaign tracks all have a Campaign prefix and was wondering if i need to assign a prefix to all tracks i wish to add respective to their state, or do these tracks get referenced by another file for correct parameters ?

The only thing i could see was in the state MUSIC_CREDITS2 section which uses a list of all tracks, do i need to add my custom tracks in their for indexing or something ?

It has to do with the way your saving the mp3 (e.g. bit rates, etc). For RTW to read the mp3 they have to have certain settings when saved but I can't remember what they are. Dig around in the modding questions forum or the scriptorium and I think there's something there that will help you.

I have been trying a few different things, none of which seem to be working.


Something that boggles my mind is i removed all tracks but 1 (my custom track) in Descr_sounds_music.txt in the following sections.

******* ARABIC********

ulture carthaginian, greek, egyptian, eastern

;;; CAMPMAP



state MUSIC_STRATMAP_SUMMER
event delay 5 volume -40
folder data/sounds/music
Dry_Well.mp3


culture greek
event streamed volume -35
folder data/sounds/music
Dry_Well.mp3



culture eastern
event streamed volume -35
folder data/sounds/music
Dry_Well.mp3

But still its playing the original music :inquisitive: i am baffled as to how the game is deciding to play the original tracks.

I am testing this with a Seleucid campaign, surely those sections are appropriate for my faction.

Oh hey, i just saw your reply then after i posted that.


Thanks i'll compare bit rates now and adjust then accordingly, however i think i have a bigger issue at hand .. see above post lol.

I just compared bit rates and they are identical to the Original Mp3's 192 kbps @ 44 khz.

The track that i placed the orginal with that is working is from the same source as the Dry_well.mp3 and has identical stats, so i think we can rule out the file properties as an issue. :)

I guess there's only one more avenue to explore which confusingly is to add my track in the Roman and Barbarian faction sections.

I don't see why there are different culture sections and playlists as the game seems to be paying no attention to them.

Hopefully it is something else that i have overlooked, this is confusing the hell out of me.:huh:

Maybe i should of paid more attention in history class. :book: Seleucid is actually Roman!!


Added track in Roman Music section and bingo works!!


Trust it to be the absolute last thing i try to be the solution. :dizzy2:

Thanks much for your help Squid.

You must be playing EB then, make sure you check expanded_bi.txt to see which faction is represented by which internal faction tag.

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Originally Posted by Squid

You must be playing EB then, make sure you check expanded_bi.txt to see which faction is represented by which internal faction tag.

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Funny you should mention that, i did have EB installed at one stage, but uninstalled it shortly after. Something tells me you can't get rid of EB that easily? :laugh4:

I uninstalled it though add/remove programs properly without a hitch and deleted the remaining folder in Romes root directory, now you have said that i fear there are remnants of EB still floating about in my game files, if this is correct i have infact been playing a Vanilla/EB hybrid the whole time lol.

I found 2 files by that name in these directories:

C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data\text
C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\BI\data\text


Not exactly sure what i'm looking at here, in each of them it looks like this :


¬ Faction Names
{ROMANS_JULII} The House of Julii
{ROMANS_BRUTII} The House of Brutii
{ROMANS_SCIPII} The House of Scipii
{ROMANS_SENATE} S.P.Q.R.
{MACEDON} Macedon
{EGYPT} Egypt
{SELEUCID} The Seleucid Empire
{CARTHAGE} Carthage
{PARTHIA} Parthia
{PONTUS} Pontus
{GAULS} Gaul
{GERMANS} Germania
{BRITONS} Britannia
{ARMENIA} Armenia
{DACIA} Dacia
{GREEK_CITIES} The Greek Cities
{NUMIDIA} Numidia
{SCYTHIA} Scythia
{SPAIN} Spain
{THRACE} Thrace
{SLAVE} Rebels
{ALEMANNI} Alemanni
{EMPIRE_EAST} Roman (Eastern Empire)
{EMPIRE_WEST} Roman (Western Empire)
{EMPIRE_EAST_REBELS} Roman (Eastern Empire Rebels)
{EMPIRE_WEST_REBELS} Roman (Western Empire Rebels)
{FRANKS} Franks
{HUNS} Huns
{SARMATIANS} Sarmatians
{SASSANIDS} Sassanids
{SAXONS} Saxons
{VANDALS} Vandals
{GOTHS} Goths
{CELTS} Celts
{WHITE_HUNS} White Huns
{OSTROGOTHS} Ostrogoths
{ROMANO_BRITISH} Romano British
{SLAVS} Slavs
{MOORS} Moors
{BERBERS} Berbers






To me it looks like Seleuicid are still tagged as The seleucid Empire which doesen't quite explain why my tracks only work in the Roman sections of Descr_sounds_music.txt when playing as Seleuicid.

Something else i should note is the Dry_Well track that i finally got working by placing it within the Roman section just repeats even though i have 7 custom tracks in there now. :furious3: