Hellas... Only the mainland...

Hello, I know you strive for balance and historicity, and yes, the Koinon Hellenon represents the Chremonidian league, yet, it seems that, as someone else pointed out... Eleutheroi doesn't really make the place unique, I mean, You can't trade with them (Mainland hellas traded with Pergamon (EB1-wise) Byzantion, Syrakousai), you cannot ask them for help... You cannot ally them.
And I know again that you strive to give the "Barbarian" factions their due participation and glory (ran out of words there :laugh4:), yet, Hellas traded with hellas, it was not at war with Eleutheroi... Now I know I'm a whiny little :daisy: (Yes... a lovely little flower :laugh4:) but I believe the hellenic sphere of influence can be represented better.

If not I wish it could be modded.

Now here comes the real true informative text (This would be RTW style as I haven't modded M2TW)...
First, descr_strat.txt (for Syrakousai only (and only to add it to the faction, not to take control of it and leave Hellas to the Eleutheroi... It may be updated later), as IDK how for the other factions... Hellenic Hiero will be named HieroofHellenos and Eleutheroi hiero, HieroofEle
(Assuming the internal name will be koinon_hellenon)

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; Region: Eremos
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character,        HieroofHellenos, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 20, , x 10, y 200 YearsPassed 4 , FamilyMember 1 , Disciplinarian 1 , GoodTactician 1 , CommandExperience 3 , WellConnectedWife 1 , HieroBiography 1


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; Region: Eremos
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character, sub_faction koinon_hellenon,        HieroofEle, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 20, , x 15, y 195
traits ImmobileRebel 1 , YearsPassed 4 , FamilyMember 1 , Disciplinarian 1 , GoodTactician 1 , CommandExperience 3 , WellConnectedWife 1 , HieroBiography 1

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EBBS_script.txt

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monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType koinon_hellenon
declare_counter SyracuseJoinHellasAttempts
declare_counter SyracuseJoinsHellas
and I_CompareCounter autoTurnCount > 0
and I_CompareCounter autoRunStartFaction = 1
and I_CompareCounter SyracuseisHellas = 0
and CharacterSelected HieroofHellenos
advance_advice_thread Syracuse_Join_Hellas_Thread
select_ui_element advisor_portrait_button
simulate_mouse_click lclick_up
suspend_unscripted_advice true
set_counter SyracuseJoinHellasAttempts 1
end_if
;
if monitor_event ButtonPressed ButtonPressed advisor_dismiss_button
    console_command kill_character "HieroofHellenos"
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "hellenistic cavalry tarentinoi" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "hellenistic skirmisher cavalry hippakontistai" 1 2 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "hellenistic infantry syracuse hoplite" 2 2 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "hellenistic infantry thureophoroi" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "greek skirmisher peltastai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "greek skirmisher akontistai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "greek missile toxotai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command move_character "HieroofEle" 106, 100
    console_command character_reset "HieroofEle"
set_counter SyracuseJoinsHellas 0
end_if
;
if monitor_event ButtonPressed ButtonPressed advisor_portrait_button
set_counter SyracuseJoinHellasAttempts 2
set_counter SyracuseJoinsHellas 0
end_if
;
if monitor_event ButtonPressed ButtonPressed advisor_portrait_button
I_CompareCounter SyracuseJoinHellasAttempts > 1
    console_command kill_character "HieroofHellenos"
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "hellenistic cavalry tarentinoi" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "hellenistic skirmisher cavalry hippakontistai" 1 2 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "hellenistic infantry syracuse hoplite" 2 2 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "hellenistic infantry thureophoroi" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "greek skirmisher peltastai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "greek skirmisher akontistai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofEle" "greek missile toxotai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command move_character "HieroofEle" 106, 100
    console_command character_reset "HieroofEle"
set_counter SyracuseJoinsHellas 0
end_if
;
monitor_event ButtonPressed ButtonPressed advisor_show_me_button
    console_command capture_settlement "Syracuse"
    console_command kill_character "HieroofEle"
    console_command create_unit "HieroofHellenos" "hellenistic cavalry tarentinoi" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofHellenos" "hellenistic skirmisher cavalry hippakontistai" 1 2 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofHellenos" "hellenistic infantry syracuse hoplite" 2 2 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofHellenos" "hellenistic infantry thureophoroi" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofHellenos" "greek skirmisher peltastai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofHellenos" "greek skirmisher akontistai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command create_unit "HieroofHellenos" "greek missile toxotai" 1 1 0 0
    console_command move_character "HieroofHellenos" 106, 100
    console_command character_reset "HieroofHellenos"
    console_command create_building "type4_greek"
set_counter SyracuseJoinsHellas 1
end_monitor

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EXPORT_DESCR_ADVICE.txt

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;---------------------SyracuseJoinHellas--------------
AdviceThread Syracuse_Join_Hellas_Thread
GameArea Campaign

Item Syracuse_Join_Hellas_Text_01
Uninhibitable
Verbosity  0
Threshold  1
Attitude Normal
Presentation Default
Title Syracuse_Join_Hellas_Text_01_Title
Text Syracuse_Join_Hellas_Text_01_Text1

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EXPORT_ADVICE.txt

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{Syracuse_Join_Hellas_Text_01_Title}WARNING READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. Syracuse to join Hellas.

{Syracuse_Join_Hellas_Text_01_Text1}
Syracuse one stood as an independent city, yet our trade with them has flourished and we have negotiated with them to them wanting to support our men in mainland hellas. Click the Show Me How button to annex Syrakousai to the Koinon. Click the Advisor prortrait to think a bit more (You can BECOME Syracuse by clicking on the city itself) WARNING only 1 repeat attempt is possible. Click the Dismiss Advice button so that Syrakousai stays an independent city.

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Tell me what you think... I think you will say no, and that it would be good for modding but not to be included... I will upload the whole codes (only Syrakousai at least lol), but I think I learned a lot more EDA, EBBS and whole coding for RTW :juggle2: :idea2: :laugh4:

I also want to point out that I am good :glasses: :laugh4: EBII could use my skillz :laugh4:

EDIT: I modified the EBBS script so that there's only 2 attempts and added several counter present in the other scenarios of Syracuse such as it being the whole faction...

Please leave some feedback :brood:

Please point out any mistakes... My knowledge is empirical and autodidactic :juggle2: :laugh4: :help: :oops:

~Jirisys (smiley invasion!!!!!!! :laugh4: :smg:)

Would you care to explain to us mere mortals what this kind of modding would do? :)

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Originally Posted by Paltmull

Would you care to explain to us mere mortals what this kind of modding would do? :)

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Basically make a script to give the KH some islands, either to only take control of them, or actualy playing as them (easy migration campaign).

I think this would be more suited to the Mod section anyways.

~Jirisys ()

Moving to EB1 submods.

I think this is a great idea for a mod, but the addition of Syracuse to KH could make them too powerful in the early campaign. I'd give them Crete instead, it's a poorer province.

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Originally Posted by jirisys

Basically make a script to give the KH some islands, either to only take control of them, or actualy playing as them (easy migration campaign).

I think this would be more suited to the Mod section anyways.

~Jirisys ()

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Originally Posted by Titus Marcellus Scato

I think this is a great idea for a mod, but the addition of Syracuse to KH could make them too powerful in the early campaign. I'd give them Crete instead, it's a poorer province.

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It will not give it to the AI because you will need to be the kh in order to do so. You could do one for the AI of course, but It's simpler to have them from the start.

~Jirisys ()

nice, but actually, if historicality is taken seriously, Syrakousai would be more logical to join with Epeiros (Hiero was Phyrrhos' old drinking friend and former general)

BTW, I'd link that with some Roman / Carthaginian invasion, so it can be as if that was "asking for Help"

PS: for KH, it would be better if tied with Sinope, Pantikapaion, or Thermon event as well

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Originally Posted by Sonic

nice, but actually, if historicality is taken seriously, Syrakousai would be more logical to join with Epeiros (Hiero was Phyrrhos' old drinking friend and former general)

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True - but Epirus was an enemy of Rome, while Hiero of Syracuase became an ally. Didn't Rome ally with Koinon Hellenon later against Macedonia? I've seen AI Rome in EB ally with KH, but not with Epirus.

It would be nice if there was a possibility for Syracuse to ally with Rome, without Rome conquering it.

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Originally Posted by Titus Marcellus Scato

True - but Epirus was an enemy of Rome, while Hiero of Syracuase became an ally. Didn't Rome ally with Koinon Hellenon later against Macedonia? I've seen AI Rome in EB ally with KH, but not with Epirus.

It would be nice if there was a possibility for Syracuse to ally with Rome, without Rome conquering it.

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Just replace the "koinon_hellenon" faction section and add "spqr" or if you don't change internal names: "seleucids".

Also the "HieroofHellenos" should be "HieroofRomani"

~Jirisys ()