London riots

After a second night of mayhem, not just in Tottenham but now also in Brixton, Enfield, Waltham Forest, Islington and Oxford Circus, can members explain to me what's what?

During the 2005 Paris riots we were told by Louis and others that islam was to blame.

I suppose Christianity is to blame for the Tottenham riots, since most of the local inhabitants are from Christian communities.

How do we deal with the Christian mob violence in our innner cities?

AII

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I blame the destruction of social cohesion by the double onslaught of retreating governments and the social disintegration of civic society because of multiculturalism.

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Originally Posted by Adrian II

After a second night of mayhem, not just in Tottenham but now also in Brixton, Enfield, Waltham Forest, Islington and Oxford Circus, can members explain to me what's what?

During the 2005 Paris riots we were told by Louis and others that islam was to blame.

I suppose Christianity is to blame for the Tottenham riots, since most of the local inhabitants are from Christian communities.

How do we deal with the Christian mob violence in our innner cities?

AII

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I didn't blame Islam, did I? I am quite secular in my fascism so I just blame immigrants outright. :shrug:


I do remember you smiting me with endless essays by your favourite philosophes arguing that anything and everything, except Islam, had anything to do with Musim youth being the most violent and criminal in all of France.

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

I blame the destruction of social cohesion by the double onslaught of retreating governments and the social disintegration of civic society because of multiculturalism.

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You take the easy way out, hein? Ze immigration beum - how clevair of yoo, Cateu!

No, my friend, these are predominantly white Christian boroughs. I looked into the Metropolitan Police's crime stats and it appears that property crime and rape are very high in Christian areas such as Haringey and Enfield. Must have something to do with their belief in the afterlife, they just don' t value this life as much as the rest of us do I guess.

This begs the question: how well are Christians integrated in today's society? Shouldn't we conclude that this multireligiousness nonsense has been a failure and that modern society just can't cope with a high concentration of Christians in one place?

AII

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

I blame the destruction of social cohesion by the double onslaught of retreating governments and the social disintegration of civic society because of multiculturalism.I didn't blame Islam, did I? I am quite secular in my fascism so I just blame immigrants outright. :shrug:


I do remember you smiting me with endless essays by your favourite philosophes arguing that anything and everything, except Islam, had anything to do with Musim youth being the most violent and criminal in all of France.

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Immigrants really have nothing to do with secularism..............

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Originally Posted by Adrian II

You take the easy way out, hein? Ze immigration beum - how clevair of yoo, Cateu!

No, my friend, these are predominantly white Christian boroughs. I looked into the Metropolitan Police's crime stats and it appears that property crime and rape are very high in Christian areas such as Haringey and Enfield. Must have something to do with their belief in the afterlife, they just don' t value this life as much as the rest of us do I guess.

This begs the question: how well are Christians integrated in today's society? Shouldn't we conclude that this multireligiousness nonsense has been a failure and that modern society just can't cope with a high concentration of Christians in one place?

AII

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or perhaps we should conclude that large and poorly integrated immigrant communities are responsible for most of the crime and violence in the areas they inhabit.

stat - 80% of gun crime is black on black. 75% of that remaining 20% of gun crime involves both white and black people.

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Originally Posted by Adrian II

This begs the question: how well are Christians integrated in today's society?

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You mean, as integrated in the Christian tradition out of which society arose , I'd say well integrated. D'66-ers on the other hand...
Liberals don't have a monopoly on society, you know. Even the majority hasn't.

See what happens when the Spurs finish 5th?

I still blame the muslims, how dare they continue to make people feel uneasy about various things

Quite the mess http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ting-girl.html cool pics though

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Originally Posted by Fragony

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Cameron should look to the great men of the past, like Justinian the Great. I think Emirates Stadium can be used for a rehearsel of the Nika Riot solution.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

As Justinian rallied himself, he created a plan that involved Narses, a popular eunuch, as well as the generals, Belisarius and Mundus. Carrying a bag of gold given to him by Justinian, the slightly built eunuch entered the Hippodrome alone and unarmed, against a murderous mob that had already killed hundreds. Narses went directly to the Blues' section, where he approached the important Blues and reminded them that Emperor Justinian supported them over the Greens. He also reminded them that the man they were crowning, Hypatius, was a Green. Then, he distributed the gold. The Blue leaders spoke quietly with each other and then they spoke to their followers. Then, in the middle of Hypatius's coronation, the Blues stormed out of the Hippodrome. The Greens sat, stunned. Then, Imperial troops led by Belisarius and Mundus stormed into the Hippodrome, killing the remaining rebels.

About thirty thousand rioters were reportedly killed.[4] Justinian also had Hypatius executed and exiled the senators who had supported the riot. He then rebuilt Constantinople and the Hagia Sophia, and was free to establish his rule.

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So Labour Party/unions, prepare yourselves :laugh4:

Gaius Aurelius Valerius Diocletianus is the better options since it are christians

This is caused by what the left has said for years and years - poverty.

The difference between the rich and the poor has increased dramatically, so it's only natural that events like this occur.

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Police may have some explaining to do, the bullet found in the car is police-ammo

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Gaius Aurelius Valerius Diocletianus is the better options since it are christians

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"christians"
"rioting"

Implying the Bible (and the epistles of Paul in particular) even allows rioting instead of unconditional submission to the state, even the diocletian persecutions were met with unresisted martyrdom. Me thinks those are poor, leftwing atheists.

Or would someone that adhered to this riot against the destruction of social security?

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Originally Posted by 2 Thessalonians

We did not accept anyone's support without paying for it. Instead, we worked and toiled; we kept working day and night so as not to be an expense to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to demand our support; we did it to be an example for you to follow. While we were with you, we used to tell you, “Whoever refuses to work is not allowed to eat.”
We say this because we hear that there are some people among you who live lazy lives and who do nothing except meddle in other people's business. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ we command these people and warn them to lead orderly lives and work to earn their own living.

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Really, if every white man is a Christian, is every brown man a muslim then?

And Diocletian persecutions were pointless genocide, the supression of the Nika riots were just, like uhm, the supression of riots?

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Police may have some explaining to do

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Nah, the Christian churches have a lot of explaining to do. Have you seen what they preach in these areas? The Jamaicans are taught that the West is Babylon, the whore of the world. The Irish and Nigerians in Haringey or Enfield are told by their Catholic clergy that the Church of England and all other Protestants are heretics. The Ghanese have all these Adventist and Presbyterian churches where they are taught that modern western society with all its temptations is the devil incarnate.

Why can't they all be chavs and binge drinkers like the rest of Britain? Then you wouldn't be having this trouble.

AII

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Originally Posted by Adrian II

Nah, the Christian churches have a lot of explaining to do. Have you seen what they preach in these areas? The Jamaicans are taught that the West is Babylon, the whore of the world. The Irish and Nigerians in Haringey or Enfield are told by their Catholic clergy that the Church of England and all other Protestants are heretics. The Ghanese have all these Adventist and Presbyterian churches where they are taught that modern western society with all its temptations is the devil incarnate.

Why can't they all be chavs and binge drinkers like the rest of Britain? Then you wouldn't be having this trouble.

AII

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Ah, because different christian groups don't like eachother and modernism, anarchist scum are setting London aflame. Makes NO sense at all.
In fact, those chavs are now burning down London, be glad christians aren't like that.

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Originally Posted by Skullhead

You mean, as integrated in the Christian tradition out of which society arose

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Societies predate Christendom in the British Isles for starters (Druids for instance) and everywhere else for that matter. Christianity is a reflection of the environment of the worshippers... earlier religions were more animal spirits, then half animal-man (think Egyptian), then groups of manlike beings (Greek Pantheon), then a paternal religion reflecting the civics of the period.

So your statement is the wrong way round. Christianity arose out of society, society did not rise out of Christianity.

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Originally Posted by Skullhead

Ah, because different christian groups don't like eachother and modernism anarchist scum are setting London aflame. Makes NO sense at all.

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Because they all loath modern western society, that's why. Their Christian god tells them that the rest of us are doomed unless we adopt their faith and submit. This is the result of years and years of Christian indoctrination and it has been happening right under our noses.

AII

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Originally Posted by Adrian II

Because they all loath modern western society, that's why. Their Christian God tells them that the rest of us are doomed unless we adopt their faith and submit. This is the result of years and years of Christian indoctrination and it has been happening right under our noses.

AII

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And the problem being? They don't persecute you, now do they. Nor blow you up, stone you, hang you or decapitate you in any way, some religions handle this different...



PS: why are you derailing your own thread?

I think the ironic characterisation of "Christian responsibility" to make a rather tired point has had quite enough airing. It is now bordering on religion bashing and deliberate provocation whilst not having much merit as a debating point.

There is plenty to discuss about these riots without resorting to caricature.

(And yes, before the wounded rules lawyers pipe up, I've admonished the same attitude when it's paraded at Muslims).

This is kinda hilarious in a in-your-face kinda way, Ghaddafi supports the London freedom fighters :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Fragony

This is kinda hilarious in a in-your-face kinda way, Ghaddafi supports the London freedom fighters :laugh4:

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HAHAHAHAHA! He's the best troll in international politics ever.
Also, do you have a link?

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Originally Posted by Skullhead

HAHAHAHAHA! He's the best troll in international politics ever.
Also, do you have a link?

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Geenstijl says, dunno where they got it from but they are almost never wrong

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Originally Posted by Skullhead

And the problem being? They don't persecute you, now do they. Nor blow you up, stone you, hang you or decapitate you in any way, some religions handle this different...



PS: why are you derailing your own thread?

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I've been told to shut up since I'm tiresome, so the thread is all yours. :bow:

AII

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Originally Posted by Fragony

This is kinda hilarious in a in-your-face kinda way, Ghaddafi supports the London freedom fighters :laugh4:

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awesome!

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

This is caused by what the left has said for years and years - poverty.

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So why is this rioting taking place in London and not the much poorer parts in the north or in Scotland/Wales?

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Originally Posted by Fragony

This is kinda hilarious in a in-your-face kinda way, Ghaddafi supports the London freedom fighters :laugh4:

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lmao

Anyway, I couldn't help but notice that the vast majority of rioters that I've seen in the pics are black or brown.

Mr. Duggan was also at least mixed-race.

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Originally Posted by Skullhead

And the problem being? They don't persecute you, now do they. Nor blow you up, stone you, hang you or decapitate you in any way, some religions handle this different...

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"his attackers were trying to decapitate him. Witnesses say that having wrenched his helmet from him, his attackers then repeatedly stabbed him in the body, and continuously hacked away at his neck. He lost several fingers as he tried to defend himself before the attackers fled, as more police, firemen, and ambulance men moved in to try and save him...the injuries were so grievous that it did appear the men were trying to behead the man"

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Originally Posted by Papewaio

"his attackers were trying to decapitate him. Witnesses say that having wrenched his helmet from him, his attackers then repeatedly stabbed him in the body, and continuously hacked away at his neck. He lost several fingers as he tried to defend himself before the attackers fled, as more police, firemen, and ambulance men moved in to try and save him...the injuries were so grievous that it did appear the men were trying to behead the man"

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This happened in London?