A Right Delayed is a Right Denied
The Statists in charge of DC continue to do their utmost to prevent people from exercising their constitutional rights:
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Over the past couple months, I’ve been trying to get a legal gun in the District. I always knew this would be a challenge, but I had no idea how time-consuming it would be to complete all 17 steps the city requires. I’m not even halfway done.
My quest started in October at the D.C. Gun Registry at the police department. I met with Officer Brown, who put piles of paper on the desk between us. “Here’s everything you need to know,” she said, pointing to a stack about a quarter-inch thick.
I asked where I could buy the gun. “You can go to any licensed dealer in another state - or on the Internet,” she said. “Then give this form to Charles Sykes downstairs, and he’ll go pick it up for you and transfer it.” I glanced through the registration packet and saw no reference to Mr. Sykes or transferring a gun. So I figured while I was there, I should track down this man, who seemed to play a key role.
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That day, I went home and started poring through the 22-page registration packet. Overwhelmed by the confusing forms and instructions, I started with the eligibility form. After answering the nine questions and feeling that I’d accomplished something, I noticed that it required a signature by a notary public. At this rate, I would be an owner of a legal handgun about the same time I’d be eligible for Social Security.
Next, I read the section about the requirement to take a gun-safety class from a D.C.-certified instructor.
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To help me find a certified instructor, the city provided two pages listing 47 random names and phone numbers. The list did not give an instructor’s address, background information, website or certification.
I decided to call all of them.
On the bottom of the police phone list, it says, “Revised on September 9, 2009.” This two-year lag was apparent when seven of the 47 numbers I called were out of service. More than half of my calls - 27 - went straight to voicemail. From all this effort, I quickly learned that the instructors were not allowed to teach the course in the District.
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Training certificate in hand, my preliminary tasks are completed. Now I must decide which handgun to buy. I’ve narrowed it down to four full-sized 9 mm semiautomatics that I’ve been able to handle well and shoot accurately. Once I complete this purchase, I will have 13 more steps to go before the city will allow me to protect myself.
We need a form of punishment for government officials who try to violate the constitutional rights of people. These ... jerks ... in DC can merrily set up a huge number of barriers to exercising a civil right, and even if someone successfully sues them and fights it all the way to the supreme court and gets this kafka-esque process overturned, these :daisy: will simply set up a different restrictive process and go merrily about their way.
Something like; everyone who proposes, endorses, or enforces a law that's later ruled unconstitutional will have to serve jail time equal to what someone who broke the law would have to serve.
CR
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It is a requirement that they do so after all it is a 'well regulated militia' not a deregulated one.
Maybe what would happen if this was tested at the highest court they would find the other districts and states failing the well regulated benchmark. So I'd be careful about what I used as a litmus test before SCOTUS...
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Originally Posted by
Papewaio
It is a requirement that they do so after all it is a 'well regulated militia' not a deregulated one.
Maybe what would happen if this was tested at the highest court they would find the other districts and states failing the well regulated benchmark. So I'd be careful about what I used as a litmus test before SCOTUS...
The Second Amendment does not actually lay down any militia requirement. It is a conditional statement. Because of x, you must not deny y. 'A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.' The framers were essentially saying that because militias were vital to national security, the government cannot deny the right to keep and bear arms.
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Like I said before. The guy writing the article should have called CATO and sued. With this article as evidence, lawyer can argue the excessive restrictions is a de facto gun ban.
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I have no problems with gun registration, but it can and should be a simple, easy process. It sounds like the DC system is set up with the express purpose of denying gun ownership to as many people as possible. Like CR said, they're just trying bypass the constitution.
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Crazed Rabbit
Something like; everyone who proposes, endorses, or enforces a law that's later ruled unconstitutional will have to serve jail time equal to what someone who broke the law would have to serve.
CR
That's a bit excessive, no? That would mean that literally the entire police force would be in prison for doing their job.
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We need a form of punishment for government officials who try to violate the constitutional rights of people.
You could always shoot them.
No wait!.....
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CountArach
That's a bit excessive, no? That would mean that literally the entire police force would be in prison for doing their job.
You're probably right. That provision should be aimed at the people who make the laws.
Though I'd like to see complete immunity from lawsuits* for prosecutors and nigh-on complete immunity from lawsuits for police removed.
Lawsuits stemming from actions in their professional capacity.
CR
