Well, what do you think?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/01/us...s-awaited.html
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Well, what do you think?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/01/us...s-awaited.html
Should only be 4-8 years from now when corporations are given the right to vote. ~:rolleyes:
I agree with the majority decision. Providing some form of compensation to employees equivalent to that which would have been spent on this aspect of a healthcare package, thus allowing them to purchase their own coverage for this seems a more reasonable route. Employees retain the option to vote with their feet and work for firms that do not so restrict coverage.
Something about China and hypocrisy, but that's not really a strong case unless - what's China's legislation, if any, on healthcare vis-a-vis local employees and foreign employers?
A business should not pay a dime for health insurance. They should be taxed.
We always talk about how deep "big business" has sunk its claws in to our decision making process. Tell them the government will tax them less than what they currently pay in health costs.
Remember kids, socialized medicine only works if your a veteran (well maybe not) or a senator. Other than that, you are an affront to America and a probably lesbian.
I, of course, agree with the decision. Like 20-30% of SCOTUS decisions; One law in conflict with another, one side emerges victorious as a result of Anthony Kennedy.
I should probably read it myself as supreme court decisions are notorious for being vague and settling very little.
****, Strike beat me to this. Stop giving corporations all these responsibilities over health care so we don't have to deal with this obnoxious effort to cut down costs by granting the company every individual exemption under the sun.
Not a good analogy, as it's an actual firefighting technique.Quote:
Fight fire with fire, and all you get is a burning forest.
It's a little more complicated than that GC. Most Americans hear UHC or "Single-payer" and they flinch... government rationing of healthcare...
What most of us fail to take into account is that there is always rationing of healthcare. The question is "who is doing the rationing and what are their heuristics".
If I was President Obama, I would have done anything I could have to shut down the VA scandal discussion months ago. Instead, the best example we have of "single-payer", the VA, which he trotted around in 2010 as the example of what was to come for the rest of the US, has been shown to be the worst of everything the average American always feared it to be.
Before the invectives, I KNOW that single-payer systems are capable of much better. I'm saying that there is a lot of "play to the fear" in the messaging in American politics. Giving credence to it was a tragic mistake.
"I could vote for restrictions on money in politics, but when I get rich I dont want to be held back, so I say nay." Repeat once for every voting man alive.Quote:
I can't help but shake my head and wonder why people thought it was a good idea to give the rich so much power in the first place.
I used to think that was my rationale, but I don't anymore. I majored in History and don't make reckless enough decisions to succeed or fail in a way that could lead me to that place. Plus i'm nice to people and don't want to hurt them (other than on these boards).
Now, I think that it is the general principle that we are all here to make our own universe. That no paternal or dictatorial power should be able to stop us, unless we try to stop the same in others. The older I get the more I realize that nobody has any idea as to "what or why in the hell - we're all going to die and even if we weren't". So I err on the side of the individual in the face of tyranny.
F**k your world, I do what I want.
The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 (RFRA) prohibits the “Government [from] substantially burden[ing] a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability” unless the Government “demonstrates that application of the burden to the person—(1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and (2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.” 42 U. S. C. §§2000bb–1(a), (b).
"The court held that HHS had not proved that the mandate was the “least restrictive means” of furthering a compelling governmental interest."
So how many of the female Supreme Court judges ruled in favour?
Zero, none, nada.
Maybe when it comes to women's health women should have the say...
technically, this verdict was about "closely-held corporation" owners health, so women were more than adequately represented.
But isn't this verdict discrimanting who should uphold what laws based on their religion?
Shouldn't the laws apply to all equally regardless of race or creed?
Could I as a Ratasfarian business owner sell cannabis as it fulfills my religious obligations? If not why not?
http://minneapoliscriminallawyer.lib...tafarian-case/
I say yes, so long as you are selling only to those with a religious interest in cannabis.
Interesting recent appellate case - for a 15 year old.
Why do you hate liberty?
Seriously, legalize everything, compel nothing.
And the burden then moves to the state to show if it is a public safety issue or not.
So with respect to the male Supreme Court is woman's health not a feature of public safety?
So, the verdict applies to only certain corporations, would not be applied to the States were they to require it, extends an exemption that already exists for religious organizations and uses as rationale the expansion of 1st amendment protections under RFRA that was drafted, passed and signed into law by a Democratic legislature and President.
Hardly a windfall for either side. Yet, people have to feign despair at the ruling, otherwise they wouldn't be adequately defending women in the culture war. BS.
The discriminating factor is whether the mandate is in the public interest and whether that interest can be equally well provided in a non-infringing manner. That is where the Obama birth control mandate failed. Covering abortifacients under their medical plans caused the owners of Hobby Lobby to go against their religious beliefs. And certainly, you workplace insurance is far from the only way one has access to these drugs- they're widely available.
The hypocrisy of the left over this case has been nothing short of astonishing. Activists marched around the Supreme Court chanting tired slogans like "Keep your rosaries off my ovaries" or claiming that birth control choices should only be between a woman and her doctor. Hobby Lobby wanted nothing more than to stay out of their employees personal choices- it was a government decree that put them in the middle of it. Birth control is our personal choice! .....but you have to pay for it for me. :dizzy2:
So your employer should have final decision on your health plan based on their personal choices not yours?
The better question is "why are employers mandated to have anything to do with your health insurance?"