Another week, another mass shooting

At least 13 are dead in Oregon after a 20 year old male shot up a community college.

RIP to all the victims. :bow:

Supposedly the shooter was on 4chan talking about the shooting beforehand, and of course the wonderful users on 4chan cheered him on. Wont link to the alleged thread because its pretty despicable.

So with the latest round of shootings and still nothing done about it from more background checks or expanding mental health care, I genuinely believe that its hopeless. As Telegraph writer Dan Hodges said back in June:

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In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.

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Note how most mass shootings occur in gun-free zones like schools and colleges. Not in bars or at rap concerts.

It actually was not a gun free zone.

It will happen again before Obama leaves.

And a year ago Sydney had a terrorist attack that resulted in three deaths...

They identified the shooter as a 26 year old guy who seemed to be pretty fond of the IRA.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

[URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34419802"]So with the latest round of shootings and still nothing done about it from more background checks or expanding mental health care, I genuinely believe that its hopeless. As Telegraph writer Dan Hodges said back in June:

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I saw the headline while I was browsing the news during break and don't get me wrong, mass shootings are still a horrible tragedy, but hearing the news didn't affect me much, mass shootings have become so common I'm numb to them now. I think you and Hodges are absolutely right.

He was singling out Christians. Asking people to state their religion and then shooting Christians in the head and others in the leg. Im just waiting for it to come out that he purchased the guns X months ago and by some miracle of Satan no one suspected a thing. Another blow against guns rights, even with a fantastic honorable mention to the one guy who was concealed carry on campus.

Im not too familiar with the IRA and their ideology but I wonder if his seeming obsession with them had anything to do with it.

Also real props to CNN who did this wonder:

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Multiple law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation identified the gunman as 26-year-old Chris Harper Mercer. Investigators have interviewed members of his family and friends, they said.

"I will not name the shooter," Hanlin said. "I will not give him the credit he probably sought."

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Originally Posted by Tuuvi

I saw the headline while I was browsing the news during break and don't get me wrong, mass shootings are still a horrible tragedy, but hearing the news didn't affect me much, mass shootings have become so common I'm numb to them now. I think you and Hodges are absolutely right.

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It probably almost happened last year to the elementary school that my sister's daughter went to. (They live not far from Houston). A would-be shooter was caught by police thanks to his friend who reported what was said in his facebook. So the mass shootings feel very close to home for me.

Horrible. RIP.

Rest in peace, to the victims. Why did he target the christians, if he was an IRA fan? Or did he target speicfically the protestants?

Anyway, have the republican candidates claimed that we would have avoided the tragedy, if every teacher and pupil carried a friendly-to-amateurs rifle or is it too early?

Maybe he was a fan of something else, sure looks like it.

What can you say at this point?

R.I.P

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Anyway, have the republican candidates claimed that we would have avoided the tragedy, if every teacher and pupil carried a friendly-to-amateurs rifle or is it too early?

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Not that I know of, but the customary twitter-feminist attempts to link shootings to "toxic masculinity" has started early this time.

Yes that actually happens.

Can't say nothing of course, but he did ask what religion they had to his victims, and he is repordely from Syria. Not saying anything more because I can't know how much is true. Looks like a valid gamble though.

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

What can you say at this point?

R.I.P


Not that I know of, but the customary twitter-feminist attempts to link shootings to "toxic masculinity" has started early this time.

Yes that actually happens.

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Toxic masculinity is a real thing.

Diesel cars are probably killing more people annually due to the discrepancy between what the stated pollution is and the actual pollution. In the UK we basically trust the companies to provide the emission test results and ask few if any questions so failed to catch the cheat that has probably been used for ages and probably by several manufacturers.

Many Arab countries use cheap labour from abroad and ignore many health and safety rules we have in the West to get fast, cheap buildings up. A high death rate amongst the workers.

America likes guns and ensures that everyone can get hold of them with ease - since assuming one is mentally deranged enough to get to a gun fair even the basic gun checks can be avoided. More nutters gun down people.

The point is that choices by societies have costs. America made theirs so yeah. Another shooting. How about that?

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Toxic masculinity is a real thing.

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Yes, it's called chauvinism.

RIP to all victims.

As someone without strong opinions on the gun control debate, is there some cultural reason this happens so much in the USA and not other countries with high gun ownership levels?

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Originally Posted by rvg

Note how most mass shootings occur in gun-free zones like schools and colleges. Not in bars or at rap concerts.

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Who the fuck carries a gun in a bar?

Also lol dogwhistle.

Good god.

I live in the most gun happy part of the most gun happy state and can garun-god-damn-tee you 99% of people don't carry in a bar.

At what point do you look in the mirror and admit to yourself that cognitive thought just isn't your bag?

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Who the fuck carries a gun in a bar?

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Cowboy wannabes? I think Johnny Cash wrote a song about it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMMp_llzBT4

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Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

RIP to all victims.

As someone without strong opinions on the gun control debate, is there some cultural reason this happens so much in the USA and not other countries with high gun ownership levels?

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Being bigger perhaps? This happens everywhere, look at Norway or Germany, it happened there as well, there are idiots everywhere and naturally more in a country with a bigger population,

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Who the fuck carries a gun in a bar?

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The barkeep. :grin:

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Who the fuck carries a gun in a bar?

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Shaun?

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Im not too familiar with the IRA and their ideology but I wonder if his seeming obsession with them had anything to do with it.

Also real props to CNN who did this wonder:

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The IRA hate non-Catholics and the English.

Sounds like he thought he was sending the Christians to heaven.

Clearly a nut - if it turns out he bought his guns legally then it shows they aren't checking up on people who own guns to make sure they're safe.

If he asked without specifying, only asked who are christians, he was probably a convert. Will take total redicule for suggesting what seems pretty likely to me if that isn't the case.

Well if the shooter really was on 4chan before the attack, he posted in the r9k section, which Ive read is more for the social recluses and the like so its probably not related to the IRA.

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If he asked without specifying, only asked who are christians, he was probably a convert. Will take total redicule for suggesting what seems pretty likely to me if that isn't the case.

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A convert would have likely changed his name from Chris to something else.

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Originally Posted by rvg

A convert would have likely changed his name from Chris to something else.

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True that, but it's still odd that he was so unspecific, just 'who is christan'. Maybe he was a satanist or a radical atheist, but I would put my money on a convert, maybe he still had to earn his name.

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or a radical atheist

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Considering the section of 4chan he was on, this is probably it.