So, whos in your retinue?

Anyone get famous people in their generals retinue yet? One of mine has Archimedes. Hes pretty nice too, +2 command attacking walls, +1 command defending walls, and 100! build points.

Besides for that I also have a general with a great warmonger retinue. He has: Priest of Vulcan, Decorated Hero, Mercenary Captain, Military Tribune, Geometer, Drillmaster, Chirugeon, and an Inventor.

It adds up to like +30 build points, 50% discount on unit costs, 25% move bonus, 10% discount on building, +1 management, +1 command, +1 command defending, +1 command defending walls, 10% populartity boost with Senate, 2% looting bonus, and 20% boost to mining. Also with the Chirugeon more units recover from their wounds.

That general is also a military genius/great commander/superior attacker. Hes an absolute terror on the battlefield. ~D


On a semi-related note, is there a way to dismiss people from your retinue? I have some generals close to dieing but due to academys and the like everywhere all my generals have full retinues, i'd like to drop some and switch over the rarer guys for use with my younger ones.

I got the Chirugeon once, but never again. It's a really damn useful.

Any ideas how to get him again? Do you just have to let a lot of your troops die? lol

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Originally Posted by ChaosLord

Anyone get famous people in their generals retinue yet? One of mine has Archimedes. Hes pretty nice too, +2 command attacking walls, +1 command defending walls, and 100! build points.

Besides for that I also have a general with a great warmonger retinue. He has: Priest of Vulcan, Decorated Hero, Mercenary Captain, Military Tribune, Geometer, Drillmaster, Chirugeon, and an Inventor.

It adds up to like +30 build points, 50% discount on unit costs, 25% move bonus, 10% discount on building, +1 management, +1 command, +1 command defending, +1 command defending walls, 10% populartity boost with Senate, 2% looting bonus, and 20% boost to mining. Also with the Chirugeon more units recover from their wounds.

That general is also a military genius/great commander/superior attacker. Hes an absolute terror on the battlefield. ~D


On a semi-related note, is there a way to dismiss people from your retinue? I have some generals close to dieing but due to academys and the like everywhere all my generals have full retinues, i'd like to drop some and switch over the rarer guys for use with my younger ones.

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I think its just related to Academy/Scriptorium. Alot of my guys have a Chirugeon with them now. It could also rely on public health buildings though, i'm not sure. But my guys have gotten it while sitting around in core cities away from the front so battles don't matter.

Yes, a 'dismiss retinue member' button is badly needed. I want to be able to dismiss my pet hunting dog for a drillmaster!

Chirugeon is probably related to public health buildings. I see it alot in my men, where I have them, and no where else.

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On a semi-related note, is there a way to dismiss people from your retinue? I have some generals close to dieing but due to academys and the like everywhere all my generals have full retinues, i'd like to drop some and switch over the rarer guys for use with my younger ones.

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Nice of you to ask that today. Just this morning I read a very small blurb in the manual that states you can actually move retinue folks from general to general. They must be in the same "group". Right-click the general with the peep you want to hijack, then drag the retinue down to the other general's picture in his unit box at the bottom of the screen. Haven't tried it yet, but you can bet I will soon as I get home from work. You could "fabricate" some really nice field commanders, let alone glorious accountants for your more profitable cities.

Yes you can do that, but you can't outright dismiss someone.

Given the 8 member retinue limit I seem to run into, there's no real way to trade between two experienced commanders or get rid of retinue members I don't like.

But that pet idiot needs someone to love him ........ wheres the love?

Chirugeon is nice one. A lot of my units who dance alot while the enemy is flanking actually survive to danc... fight another day ~:)

Decorated Hero is great too. I put him with my Faction Leader at the capital, pumping out troops and rallying the masses. :charge:

A lot of my Brutii generals have wrestlers in their Retinue (someone who can rip off arms is always good to have around), Makes them harder to assasinate. ~D

On a more comical note one of my generals was left idle in a backwater province (one that hasn't got the population level yet to build anymore buildings) and he now has a "Pet Idiot" in his retinue. Very damaging to his influence that one!

Instead of sending off my really low quality family members to die a glorious death, I'm now using them to soak up useless retinues, otherwise leaving them in the wilderness in a quiet part of my empire. My average-to-good family members get posted to major central cities and campaigning armies to limit picking up bad traits and retinue.

For my backwater cities I now garrison with just a couple of frontline-quality troops, later adding town watch if the population grows too fast and they become discontent. This way I avoid ruining leaders by leaving them in backwaters or having to micromanage their rotation with other leaders, but I still have a tough garrison in case of nuisance attacks. Roving assassins deal with passing diplomats - allied , neutral and enemy - to avoid the possibility of the garrison being bribed and to watch for larger armies my garrisons can't handle, requiring the attention of one of my reaction armies.

We all know them, We all have one and We all love them.
I really want to thanks CA for extending the realism by adding the Drunken Uncle.

Now what would the world be without them.

With you on the Drunken Uncle. Perhaps that's because my oldest
nephew is coming up to 18 and I've a feeling I could be joining his
retinue under that category! ~:cheers:

I find that new family members are ideal for temporary holders of
retinue, while I'm swapping them around between older ones. Also,
you can send them off to cities with academies & scriptoriums to
pick up new ones, then ferry these around. Ones like Drunken Uncle
can safetly be left with old 60+ year olds to die with them.

Alternatively, you could keep a slot or two free in good generals/
governors for swapping. Not that I've tested the 8-retinue-member
limit myself. I've found that you can't have 2 types of the same class
of retinue member (e.g. from memory: mathematician and librarian can't
coexist).

Just curiously, is it possible to delete or eliminate retinue? I havent tried it yet but I have read that you can move retinues between generals.

I've tried moving retinue between leaders, within a city. It didn't seem to work. do they have to be in the field? what might I be doing wrong?

Thankers!

You can do it from within a city without problems. I don't think you can transfer retinue members from agents to generals or generals to agents. If you're not able to transfer the retinue member theres two possible reasons why.

1: No room left, 8 seems to be the max retinue size.
2: You already have that retinue member in your other generals retinue.

If its a problem with how you transfer it, it works like this. Select the general you want to transfer from, then click on the retinue member and drag it to the other generals portrait and drop it.

Thanks, Chaos - in retrospect, I probably had 8 in each. Hmm... earlier I made a post saying "build up a big library in your capitol and leave new leaders there a little to build a big retinue". Maybe that's not the best of advice esp. if at least one of them needs at least one slot, to do any sort of shuffling.
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The file export_descr_ancillaries.txt in your Data folder tells the game how you get different people in your retinue.