Kings' stats

There is one thing I have been wondering about for a while.

You know the preset kings' stats for each faction's kings in the DEFAULT_HEROES file in the campmap/names folder?

How come you never get the kings with those stats during the game (at least I haven't), but rather all your crown princes appear with more or less the same v&v's?

It would be cool if you would get a tyrant or a zealot as a king all of a sudden in the middle of a boring royal line.

Marquis

Those ones in there are the hero kings, those who were famous leaders in the medieval times. Most of the heirs you get are not famous - that is why they are generic.

Hi ya Marquis.

I was wondering... The hero Kings all came from a specific family line. With a little research you could find the line of a king you liked. "Like Richard the Lionheart." Do you think its possible to trace that line in the game? If it is then maybe one of that king's heirs will be that hero king.

I don't know if its ever happened to me but i remember a game where one of my brit king's died in a battle. Don't ask it was rather embarassing. Anyways one of his brothers took over who was already married and brought his line to the table. Up till this point my heirs had been lukewarm at best, stat wise. Well one of his heir's came of age and this dud managed to produce a prince that had a command of 5-6*. His father only had 2*. The Prince's name was Edward, I thought it was funny, he was a kick butt warrior and the only thing I could think of was Prince Edward the Black Prince of Wales (of course I don't know if the Black Prince ever existed I saw him as a character in a movie). Well it was a huge perk to my line.

I didn't think much of it at the time. At that point in the game I was building like crazy, and I thought that may have influenced it. When I saw your post I thought about it. I don't know if you can actually do it in the game but let me tell you that was a huge turning point in my game. He was married off and fought until the day he died.

[QUOTE=Sensei Warrior]The Prince's name was Edward, I thought it was funny, he was a kick butt warrior and the only thing I could think of was Prince Edward the Black Prince of Wales (of course I don't know if the Black Prince ever existed I saw him as a character in a movie). [QUOTE]

Oh he existed allright, Prince Edward, the Black prince, one of the most succesfull militairy leaders of the English:

'b.1330 - d.1376. Although, Edward, The Black Prince and heir to the Throne, was outlived by his Father, Edward III, his son, Richard, became Richard II. It was the son of Edward's (The Black Prince) younger brother, John, the Duke of Lancaster, also known as John of Gaunt, who deposed Richard II and eventually became Henry IV.

In fact, Edward was a complex character. The leader of the English Army at the Battle of Crecy at the age of 16 and also victor at the Battle of Poitiers, ten years later when he captured the French King, John the Good. After this Battle, Edward brought King John to England. It was obviously these victories that made him popular although there was a lot less enthusiasm about the level of taxes that his campaigns cost. Towards the end of his life, after subduing a rebellion at Limoges, he had 3,000 of the inhabitants, men, women and children, slaughtered :dizzy2: . Not the kind of action that would have made acceptable reading in The Times these days.' (source: http://www.digiserve.com/peter/bprince.htm)

Cool. Thanks Hold Steady.

Then maybe I did stumble on one of the Hero Kings. Maybe how you get them is what I said in the previous post.

In the MTW Instruction manual it says, "If a faction leader has the same name and ordinal number as a famous ruler of his people he will tend to have the same kind of abilities." p16 3rd paragraph.

So I would think you could scare them up you would just have to know which series of heirs to use to get them, sort of like a secret code.