garrison losing men during siege

I have noticed that my units tend to lose men while they are besieged in city. This I dont understand. I can only see two reasons for losing men in the garrison during a siege.

1. the besiegers and garrison shoots at eachothers during the siege.

But this seems very unlikely because I dont think there would be any fighting before the assault, plus I havent seen any besiegers taking casulties during a siege.

2. the garrison dies from starvation.

This seems very inlikely too, because I dont understand why people would began to die after the first turn when the grain storage is supposed to last for 9 turns.

So why am I losing men when I am besieged???? ~:confused:

In MTW both besiegers and beseiged lose men during a siege, which I think is way more realistic. It made it so that you either had to attack the settlement right away or wait it out and lose like half ur units after 10 turns...

The grain store might indeed be supposed to be last for 9 years, but it cannot be expected to feed all the defenders AND the populace at pre-siege rate for 9 full years... what you are seeing is incremental starvation. Perhaps when the populace can no larger face the hunger they force the defenders to surrender.

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Originally Posted by m4rt14n

In MTW both besiegers and beseiged lose men during a siege, which I think is way more realistic. It made it so that you either had to attack the settlement right away or wait it out and lose like half ur units after 10 turns...

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Yes, but only after it was patched. Version 1.0 had casualties only for the besieged too.

One word: DISEASE

Crowd a bunch of people together (rural population taking refuge in the city as well), then cut off some access to food (rationing, poor balance of diet), and probably prevent some access to water or overuse of available water supply, plus strain the city's ability to deal with its waste. What do you get? Disease. If you read about ancient sieges you will find that disease was disastrous both for the besieged and/or the besiegers at times. It doesn't have to be a plague. A simple flu epidemic can be devastating.

If anything, the effect is much too mild at the moment. Plus the starvation/dietary issues will start early on and get worse late in the siege. Late in sieges cannibalism was not unheard of.

Do you lose poulation during a siege as well????

Don't think so, but you definitely should.

well it isn't that uncommon to see people deserting the army, you know get out of the barracks go spend time with the family and go to the tavern have a few drinks ~:cheers: and end your misery if you know what i mean ~;) of course, starvation, raids, volleys its all plausible