I'm doing a poll to find out how many atheists we have among us. Ok so this is optional, you don't have to vote and it's confidential so vote as you please.
EDIT: SO far the Chrsitians are winning.
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I'm doing a poll to find out how many atheists we have among us. Ok so this is optional, you don't have to vote and it's confidential so vote as you please.
EDIT: SO far the Chrsitians are winning.
Is god only 'Chrsitian' for purposes of this poll?Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
I beleave so.Quote:
Originally Posted by KukriKhan
I don't believe in God but I'm not an atheist either, I'm agnostic :book:
Yey, the Atheists are in the lead!
I've only ever seen 3 muslims that post here and I haven't seen them on so I presumed the rest were Christian since the majority of people that come here are from North America and Europe.Quote:
Is god only 'Chrsitian' for purposes of this poll?
I believe in a God, more specifically an omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent God...with strange reasons for making us all
He may have existed, but if he did I'm sure he killed himself over us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ah_dut
I'm an Atheist, but not Agnostic. ~:)
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If you are making this poll about the Christian God only, then the results will be much different than if you make it about an all powerful spirit..
I Don't believe in god
I made it for everyone. Every god. Even Buddha.
:snicker:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianII
So why did you say the Chrsitians were winning? If I had known that this poll included Bebekung Mampa Hoonanooga, I'd of course have voted 'yes'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
~:)
And in the last 'Pope' thread BP declared himself his own god, so one assumes he voted "yes".
The poll itself doesn't specify which religion. It simply asks weather you beleave in a god or not.
The Christisn thing was just an assumption I made about who might have voted, it's irrelevent to the poll!
I'm not god yet. ~;)Quote:
And in the last 'Pope' thread BP declared himself his own god, so one assumes he voted "yes".
Somebody had to be there to turn the key and start the engine of creation (not the Joe Satriani album).
I think we dont even know ourselves, its hard to determine if there is a god or not. I believe in god. I dont believe in church-company that exploits relligion. I dont believe that god has to be my babysitter or personal gini(sp?).
I know alot of unfair things happen in the world but as my people say:along with Athena move your hand also. Meanning dont expect everything from above.
What about agnostics?! Ohh well, no possibly, so I'll have to say yes...
What's taking so long?Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
I assume that the poll asks if there is a god who is not me, so I'll have to vote no.
Yes, I think we should beleave God. There is no way we can know for sure. Hence agnosticism is the only logical choice.
Agnosticism is a form of atheism. You don't know for sure weather god exists, correct?
Well if you are skeptic that means that your brain knows that there is no god but the futility and meaninglessness of the world bend your will to saying: "well maybe he does exist since without him the world is meaningless". So deep in your logical part of the brain you KNOW, you are 100%, god does not exist, but in your emotional part you think he does. You are split because you haven't considered other options
Well maybe the world is MEANT to be random and meaningless. Maybe THAT is the meaning of it.
Assumption alert. How do you know how all Agnostics think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
I believe in God.
I believe in God and I believe he has a wonderful sense of humor, that's why BP is here. ~D
The 'yays' are gaining on the 'nays'.. Quick, somebody, redefine the premises!Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
~:eek:
i voted "no". i'm kind of an apathetic atheist. i don't care whether there is a god(s) or not.. but if i had to pick for some reason, i'm definitely in the nay camp until i see a miracle or something.
How did you determine that God possess these characteristics? I for one find them quite irreconcilable. Take for one God's supposed omnipotence, omniscience and benevolence (or more typically called his perfect goodness IIRC). Then the Argument from Evil is quite easy to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by ah_dut
(1) If God exists then he is omniscient, omnipotent and perfectly good.
(2) If God were omniscient, omnipotent and perfectly good then the world would not contain evil.
(3) The world contains evil.
Therefore:
(4) It is not the case that God exists.
I don't "beleave" in God simply because I'm not sure if he exists, it can't really be proven that he doesn't exist hence it is reasonable to doubt his existence. I don't mix in any emotions, my belief has nothing to do with conceiving the world to be meaningless, infact I don't perceive the world as meaningless...Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
I believe that God has evil in the world because there has to be a balance of good and evil. Life would be rather boring if evil did not exist.
Skomatth, does one have to deterime the characteristics of a thing to believe in it? (not a rhtorical question, btw)
other than that, how do you justify (2) and (3)? why would "the world" be deviod of evil if such a god existed? and how do you know "evil" exists in the world?
Funny, that goes for me too, only I feel I am forced to care because religion is still such a big deal in today's world. Sometimes I catch myself looking at religious services or processions the way we watch tv history programmes about funny aviation concepts that never made it into the sky. Know what I mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_John
http://www.century-of-flight.net/avi...y/images/5.jpg