A funny thing. Have anyone experience this ?

I have posted this in the modding issue also as I'm not sure where it shall falls into. :charge:

More questions , no answers .

I recently played RTR 5.41 and this thing never happened when I played RTW vanilla. I always played on huge unit size even though it always slowed during large battles.

Anyway, on my first campaign as a Roman , this funny things happened. I'm allied with Carthage (which at that time controlled whole of Sicily and most of Iberian peninsular). I have manage to stay allied with them by refusing senate order to invade them since the start of the game. It's still quite early in the campaign (pre-marian) and I'm secretly building and training and invasion army , 2 stacks of them full of ypung generals , furnatidores and principees (with few high level hastatis). No siege engines yet as I haven't been able to do that.

At that time I have consolidate all of Italy , and most of southern gaulish provinces up to the pyrenes (border between modern day france and spain). While to the east I have taken all the coastal town from the Dacians , can't remember the names though until now I'm bordering Macedonia which is the strongest faction at those area (Greeks have been annihiliated earlier my my Roman armies).

Before I manage to invade Sicily (while loading the troops for crossing the straits) maybe the carthaginian can smell my suppose bad intention towards them and somehow a large army siege my town of Nablo Martius (?) which I recently accuired from the Gaul and broke the long standing alliance. My large invading force there earlier are nearby to finish off the nearest Gaul town and I quickly call back the troops for the defence of that small and unsignificant town ('cause I hate to lose even one town) but they couldn't reach there in one turn.

One the next turn I send my invasion force to Sicily (only one stack because Macedonia suddenly decided to join in the fun and attack my eastern province (should be where albania and serbia nowadays lays) and I have to send a full stack of reinforcement there. Anyway I landed a full stack force full of experience (some veterens from the Gaul campaign and retrained) and quickly lay siege to thier nearest town which I don't remember the name. Carthage quickly lift off the siege of nablo Martius seeing a large relief force is heading their way and sue for ceasefire which I rejected outright.

What they did later was beyond my belief. The make themselves allied with the Senate (I recieve the news from the pop up box) and still the state of war still exist between me and Carthage as usually is Senate allies with another faction they will become neutral to me (which is still ally with Senate). I don't mind about that actually because with the forces in Sicily I can conquered in less that 10 turns.

What really surprise me is that by the next turn my huge size forces ther are suddenly reduce to small size unit. (30 pax for Principees/Hastatis). It didn't happend to my other forces except the one besieging the Carthage town in Sicily. They sallied out but I still manage to beat them and conquered the town but my forces are severly depleted (no time to build required building to retrain them) and no time to send back the army to Italy to retrain.

NOW how could this happen ? Is this a bug issue ? Is this a diplomacy issue (maybe because they are allied with Senate) or is this some script issue which I do not understand (FYI i've installed all the mods I can get including Roma & Darthmods and includes the latin voice over etc.)

Can anyone give their opinion ?

Regards,,, :help:

This should be in the Colosseum

Did the Volcano erupt at any time during seige? If it did thats your answer ~:) it's happened to me twice in one game plus an earthquake. You can lose quite a large number of troops from good old natural disasters.

Nope. The volcano didn't erupt at all at that time. I didn't get the message. The only mesage is that Senate suddenly allied with Carthage. The funny thing is that usually if your allies make aliiance with your enemy, automatically you become neutral with that faction and siege automatically lifted but this things didn't happen.

The siege is still on at that time, only my units are halves.. ouch..

Bug or what... anyway . diplomatically speaking if happen in real situation, maybe some of my 'soldiers' who loyalty more towards Rome (Senate) and so disband themselves rather that continue making war with Senate's ally. . :duel: