Giving money and settlements to other factions

I found a way to give money and settlements to a faction other then the player's faction. This was thought to be impossible because add_money and capture_settlement only work for the local (player's) faction. Or atleast I think it is, if this is old news then excuse my ignorance.

First you need to store the player's faction (the "local" faction). This is done with the following piece of code, at the beginning of the script:

Code:

declare_counter player_faction if I_LocalFaction romans_julii set_counter player_faction 1 end_if if I_LocalFaction romans_brutii set_counter player_faction 2 end_if if I_LocalFaction romans_scipii set_counter player_faction 3 end_if if I_LocalFaction romans_senate set_counter player_faction 4 end_if if I_LocalFaction macedon set_counter player_faction 5 end_if if I_LocalFaction egypt set_counter player_faction 6 end_if if I_LocalFaction seleucid set_counter player_faction 7 end_if if I_LocalFaction carthage set_counter player_faction 8 end_if if I_LocalFaction parthia set_counter player_faction 9 end_if if I_LocalFaction pontus set_counter player_faction 10 end_if if I_LocalFaction gauls set_counter player_faction 11 end_if if I_LocalFaction germans set_counter player_faction 12 end_if if I_LocalFaction britons set_counter player_faction 13 end_if if I_LocalFaction armenia set_counter player_faction 14 end_if if I_LocalFaction dacia set_counter player_faction 15 end_if if I_LocalFaction greek_cities set_counter player_faction 16 end_if if I_LocalFaction numidia set_counter player_faction 17 end_if if I_LocalFaction scythia set_counter player_faction 18 end_if if I_LocalFaction spain set_counter player_faction 19 end_if if I_LocalFaction thrace set_counter player_faction 20 end_if

Now to give money/settlements to another faction. The console commands "add_money" and "capture_settlement" only work for the "local" faction, but there is a way around this problem: This is done with the "control" command. Control changes the faction the player controls, thereby changing the "local" faction. An example:

Code:

console_command control britons console_command capture_settlement Paris console_command add_money 2000

First the local faction is set to the britons, then the settlement "Paris" is given to the local faction (the britons), then money is added to the local faction (yep, still the britons). This all happens within the same turn, so the player won't notice anything (apart from a small delay while the current garrison moves our of the settlement).

Now all that remains is giving control back to the original player's faction, with the following piece of code:

Code:

if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 1 console_command control romans_julii end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 2 console_command control romans_brutii end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 3 console_command control romans_scipii end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 4 console_command control romans_senate end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 5 console_command control macedon end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 6 console_command control egypt end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 7 console_command control seleucid end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 8 console_command control carthage end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 9 console_command control parthia end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 10 console_command control pontus end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 11 console_command control gauls end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 12 console_command control germans end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 13 console_command control britons end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 14 console_command control armenia end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 15 console_command control dacia end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 16 console_command control greek_cities end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 17 console_command control numidia end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 18 console_command control scythia end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 19 console_command control spain end_if if I_CompareCounter player_faction = 20 console_command control thrace end_if

Note that I haven't done a great lot of tests on this yet, so there might be drawbacks that I haven't discovered yet (switching control *might* mess up the AI). But if there aren't any problems then it should be usefull to help the AI by giving them extra money and for special events that change settlement control. There might be other commands that are limited to the "local" faction that work with this too, I haven't really checked them all.

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

Great idea Adherbal! ~:cheers:

I think in the first code there is one mistake: if I'm not wrong the last scythia should be thrace.

Question: is this part of a show_me script or a background script?

It is very interesting as it could be part of a "senate" system for all the factions, both player and AI controlled.
Perhaps some partial objectives could be stated at the beginning of the campaign and this would be the method to reward when each objective has been reached.

P.S.: if this is not the place for discussion, please move this post. Thanks. :bow:

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

I've fixed it, thanks.

It should work for both background and show_me scripts (I don't think there's a real difference between the two).

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

If I am right this is the core version of your idea:
console_command add_money 40000
console_command control Numidia
console_command add_money -39000
console_command control Egypt

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

Once again.

console_command add_money 4000
console_command control Numidia
console_command add_money -4000
console_command control Egypt

I tried but nothing happened. I am with Egypt.

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

that should add 4000 denarii to egypt, then remove 4000 denarii for Numidia.

however thanks to Jerome we now know you can also use:

console_command add_money Numidia, 4000

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

Quote:

Originally Posted by [cF]Adherbal

that should add 4000 denarii to egypt, then remove 4000 denarii for Numidia.

however thanks to Jerome we now know you can also use:

console_command add_money Numidia, 4000

Thanks the problem solved already

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

hmm. Very interesting. Going to give this sucker a shot.

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

There are a couple nasty (and fairly well-known) side-effects with using "console_command control":
1. The AI doesn't work correctly for the faction you switch to/from.
2. All player settlements revert to auto-managed when you switch back to the original faction.

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

What happens with the AI? Is it a global AI issue, for the entire faction, all factions, or what?

Re: Giving money and settlements to other factions

I think it's an issue with AI not managing settlements properly for the faction that used to be controled by the player. Maybe other things, too - not 100% sure. JeromeGrasdyke (CA lead dev) posted a warning about using this command (quite) some time back.