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What do you think of militias?
What do you think of militias? Are they crazy fools who need to be thrown in jail? Or are they the defenders of freedom?
I think if you find a good one (not the crazy neo Nazi maniac one you usually find) they are one of the best things in this country today and I encourage you to join. I think good ones are hard to find and many do more harm then good. (Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh :help: he was in a militia)
I would like to join one some day as long as they are not just military oriented. For example some militias go look for missing children and help with disasters, some even have people on the southern border stopping illegals(although that’s not legal... they go a bit farther then the minute men~;))
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Originally Posted by ceasar010
What do you think of militias? Are they crazy fools who need to be thrown in jail? Or are they the defenders of freedom?
Neither, they're obsolete and innefective. They're probably crazy, but we should put them in jail only if they damage other's people rights. Defenders of freedom? Ha! Probably they don't even know what the word means...
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I think if you find a good one (not the crazy neo Nazi maniac one you usually find) they are one of the best things in this country today and I encourage you to join. I think good ones are hard to find and many do more harm then good. (Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh :help: he was in a militia)
Personally I wouldn't join any group who encourages the use of weapons.
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Militias:
Official army reserves comprised of non-soldiers: no problem with it
A private, self-created, non-government force: I have a problem with it.
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I think that if they have the balls to defy the federal government then they should have the balls to die like dogs.
Just my .02
DA
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Originally Posted by Tribesman
WOW What retrograde ideas...:dizzy2:
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The word 'militia' only has negative connotations for me. But then that might just be me.
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The American "Militias" would be called Paramilitaries where I live and paramilitaries are not a good thing.
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Originally Posted by ceasar010
What do you think of militias?
If they follow the laws, they can do whatever they want. ~:cheers:
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Isnt the government supposed to be afraid of the people or is it the other way around. People count on government far too much nowdays in everything they do.
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As long as some miliitas are called "freedom fighters" by others, they are practically terrorists..~:cool:
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they are the only thing worse then nutjobs......organized nutjobs...~:eek:
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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
As long as some miliitas are called "freedom fighters" by others, they are practically terrorists..~:cool:
:yes: ~D
Militias Today: the army won't accept them; they're tired of shooting and hunting other animals, so now they're looking to shoot humans. :dizzy2:
Bunch'a freaks, if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by Tribesman
I like that milita!:charge: :duel:
~D
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If by "militia" you mean a bunch of guys with guns who go out shooting at targets and complaining about the government over a few beers, I don't have a single problem.
If they do something illegal, then lock them up, like anyone else. Duh.
Though I think they take a fear of government (healthy in moderation) to a level of paranoia. At least the stereotypical militias do.
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militias are pointless now adays, america is invaded lets say aand suddenly me and all my freinds and all my weapons would be heading fast as our cars can take us to shoot some a-holes.
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The militias in Iraq doesn't seem like a good idea and I think they are rather universal. Just give them a crazy idea to fight for and they will just for the fun of it.......
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I think militias are alright, as was stated earlier some help find missing persons and defend your border, it's just when they get power hungry that they abuse their power. My opinion, give them more discipline, kinda like our Territorial army, you would still be civilians, but you'd train and get payed like army folks
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When somebody says "militia" I think of hoplites and pre-marian Roman Legions.
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Why on Earth would anyone countenence the thought of even joining a militia is beyond my ken ~:confused:
Totally alien to the English culture.
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Let me put it this way ceasar010:
You have severe problem finding any decent militia it seems. Those few decent militias that exist can be good in helping with things that you don't need a militia for, but only an organised group.
What's then the point of the militia? Have some target practicing and then complain how bad the goverment over a few beers?
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I want the Militia I join to meet these needs.
IS paranoid about the government,,,,Because I don't like big governemnt.
Has NO ties to the kkk, storm front, or the federal government.
does other things for the community.
Is not that big (if you join a militia big brother will be watching you....so it has to be an under the radar one)
Has guns but not too over throw the government. After watching katrina on tv....It would be a very good thing to be in an armed group for defence.
Is organized....not a bunch of guys in army fatiuges running around with an sks.
It can have ties to the state government...these tend to be the less extreme ones
Cannot want to trade what we have now for something that really is to powerful.
As far as I know it doesn't exist.
( I know I probably miss spelled alot of words....what happened to the spell checker?)
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The problem with many of the militias that are formed is not that they are illegal - but that they are formed for reasons not of addressing governmental overstepping the bounds of its authority.
A site - I hope it doesn't violate the rules - if it does please delete the link
http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/llinks.html
The only Militia I know of that is above all this is the one out of Missouri.
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If they are not part of the Army (as the national guard is) they must be forecebly disbanded, and there leaders charged with inciting rebellion. Oh and size all the weapons they have. If you tolerate these paramilitary groups you are asking for trouble. This is one of those situatios were tolerating the good ones proglemates the bad ones. So they all have to go.
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Originally Posted by lars573
If they are not part of the Army (as the national guard is) they must be forecebly disbanded, and there leaders charged with inciting rebellion. Oh and size all the weapons they have. If you tolerate these paramilitary groups you are asking for trouble. This is one of those situatios were tolerating the good ones proglemates the bad ones. So they all have to go.
*claps* Heil Lars!
It was a militia that formed this great nation, not a regular army. It has been militias that fought for freedom during the birth of our state. And I'll be damned if they'll take that away.
Allowing an overbearing, Stalinistic government like we did under the Clinton Administration will be the downfall of our nation. And we need people willing to fight for our freedom. The regulars won't, they'll follow the government into hell if they have to. But the people must, and if we outlaw all miltias, why don't we outlaw all organized groups? There's no way to be sure they aren't organizing against the government. Better yet, make it illegal to go out in groups of over 3 people. I'll be damned if I'll let a group of no-gooders overthrow the govenrment!
Taking away our freedom, as guarneteed in the 2nd amendment, is just one step into becoming the People's Republik of America.
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Militias served their purpose they like appointed senators are institutions of a bygone centuries. Forming any other kind of group is fine but the second you start calling yourself a militia you've gone from a club to a paramilitary terrorist organization. Funny how you Yanks are willing to tolerate terrorist (or potentially terrorist) groups of your own citizens but not those of other nations.
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It was a militia that formed this great nation, not a regular army. It has been militias that fought for freedom during the birth of our state. And I'll be damned if they'll take that away.
Why will you be damned do you think that they're a real power right now? I don't think so.
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Allowing an overbearing, Stalinistic government like we did under the Clinton Administration will be the downfall of our nation. And we need people willing to fight for our freedom. The regulars won't, they'll follow the government into hell if they have to. But the people must, and if we outlaw all miltias, why don't we outlaw all organized groups? There's no way to be sure they aren't organizing against the government. Better yet, make it illegal to go out in groups of over 3 people. I'll be damned if I'll let a group of no-gooders overthrow the govenrment!
Ha! It's really a joy seeing how you talk so much about Stalinistic governement, when in fact all begun with a revolution. The seize of weapons on control by the government has a point, that's that no one that can take over them can't do it, it's for your own safety, now if you want to take over them and create a second civil war, then go ahead and install Communism, don't waste a second opportunity,or maybe anarchism. What you're proposing is very similar to a type of "weapons anarchism". This groups have weapons Kaiser, FIRE WEAPONS!!!
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Taking away our freedom, as guarneteed in the 2nd amendment, is just one step into becoming the People's Republik of America.
Well your country is a republic.
And caesar10 the link that Tribesman gave is one of the militias that you're looking for, just one thing they don't one any member with blue hair.:dizzy2:
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Soul.....one of the reasons we have guns IS to take over the government when need be!
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Soul.....one of the reasons we have guns IS to take over the government when need be!
Yes I know, what I fail to see is how militias can achieve something like that. As I see it militias were necessary when your country was forming so no one could take all powers on himself. Now I really don't see the point, the government is formed, you've elections, free press, well at least this is all formalities, but what's the point of another formality? (i.e militias) Because I don't think that militias pass beyond formalism. On the other hand every militia is a potential risk to the stability of the nation itself, not to say the safety of a town. Personally I'll like to see every government, every nation, to disarm themselves, instead of creating inefective militias to take over them.
