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First of all, what is that in Latin and Greek? I am sure you know that.
Also, the real question. Would the Egyptians( I mean dancing egyptians!~;) ) earn a lot more money from farming in the season of the Nile flood? I definately know that the Nile was a great part of a Egyptian's life.
I don't know if scripting can change the income of a province based on the season, but it would be nice to have a 'harvest season' when all the income is collected á la shogun
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Originally Posted by Copperhaired Berserker!
I don't think we've implemented that. Dunno if we can, it might be possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Copperhaired Berserker!
We might be able to script such a thing...I'll talk to the scripters/traiters. If it works the way I'm envisioning though I might be a great idea.Quote:
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Ahem. From "hence".Quote:
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I WILL KILL YOU!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
But please don't make me.
I have a large grammar stick made just for smacking people who say "from hence" and "from whence".
(It's like Homer telling Pepe that "it's LEARN-ed", not "learn-ED".)
~D
This feature can easily be done in BI by simply editing one text file, appropriately named descr_harvest.txt
In Shogun I thought it was quite a novel idea getting your money in the spring and then having to wait 3 turns before you got any more; kind of forced you to be a bit careful
The flooding was as important ingredient for Egyptian agriculture, but so was the climate (that is with irrigation the Egyptians could double crops). But since a lot of Egyptian wealth was based on non-perishable export crops (papyrus and flax for example) that would have been exported throughout the sailing season, it seems just as effective to suggest generally wealthy provinces instead of a seasonal windfall. For crops like these the real income would be collected not at harvest time but when the Greek and Phoenician merchants coughed up the silver for them…Quote:
Also, the real question. Would the Egyptians( I mean dancing Egyptians)earn a lot more money from farming in the season of the Nile flood? I definately know that the Nile was a great part of a Egyptian's life.
I'll give you the latin for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Copperhaired Berserker!
Ab hoc, vincemus.
I don't know the Greek though.
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Such as Shakespeare, the authors of the King James Bible, and in general those who lived in a time when the words were used in common speech?Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
If you can find a way for me to whack Shakespeare with it, then sure. Or the authors of the King James Bible, sure. Or for that matter Elrond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simetrical
It's incorrect today.
My real question is a bit mis-said. I meant to say, Will Eb implant a system which means that you earn more money in the flooding season?
Copperhaired Berserker
Why would you earn more in the flood season, think it through … It would be 6 or more months later when you would reap the benefits of a seasonal flood.
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Shakespeare is buried in the chancel of the Holy Trinity Church in Stratford-Upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England. You should be able to book a jet tonight and be there in two days or so if you're serious about this grammar-stick-whacking business. Be sure to take photos, and I suggest you bring something to deal with the guards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakespeare, [url=http://www.shakespeare-online.com/plays/corio_5_2.html]"Coriolanus" Act V Scene II[/url]
Seems to me the only reasonable way to determine what's "correct" is to evaluate usage, if you're going to agree that there's nothing wrong with language changing (and if you don't agree with that, I suggest you start brushing up on your Proto-Indo-European and hope everyone else does too). And based on usage, "from whence" is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
I bet you don't end sentences with prepositions, either.
You win. Yay. :blank2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Simetrical
I'll try to keep my big mouth shut next time.
Yessss! Score one for proper English!
Shakespeare is being cited for proper English? He made up nonsense words for Jebus' sake.
Elizabethan English wasn't great, but what words did he create?
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Originally Posted by bodidley
This directly from about.com:
Shakespeare's Influence
The English language owes a great debt to Shakespeare. He invented over 1700 of our common words by changing nouns into verbs, changing verbs into adjectives, connecting words never before used together, adding prefixes and suffixes, and devising words wholly original. Below is a list of a few of the words Shakespeare coined, hyperlinked to the play and scene from which it comes. When the word appears in multiple plays, the link will take you to the play in which it first appears.
academe accused addiction advertising amazement
arouse assassination backing bandit bedroom
beached besmirch birthplace blanket bloodstained
barefaced blushing bet bump buzzer
caked cater champion circumstantial cold-blooded
compromise courtship countless critic dauntless
dawn deafening discontent dishearten drugged
dwindle epileptic equivocal elbow excitement
exposure eyeball fashionable fixture flawed
frugal generous gloomy gossip green-eyed
gust hint hobnob hurried impede
impartial invulnerable jaded label lackluster
laughable lonely lower luggage lustrous
madcap majestic marketable metamorphize mimic
monumental moonbeam mountaineer negotiate noiseless
obscene obsequiously ode olympian outbreak
panders pedant premeditated puking radiance
rant remorseless savagery scuffle secure
skim milk submerge summit swagger torture
tranquil undress unreal varied vaulting
worthless zany
EDIT: plus all this:
If you cannot understand my argument, and declare "It's Greek to me", you are quoting Shakespeare; if you claim to be more sinned against than sinning, you are quoting Shakespeare; if you recall your salad days, you are quoting Shakespeare; if you act more in sorrow than in anger, if your wish is father to the thought, if your lost property has vanished into thin air, you are quoting Shakespeare; if you have ever refused to budge an inch or suffered from green-eyed jealousy, if you have played fast and loose, if you have been tongue-tied, a tower of strength, hoodwinked or in a pickle, if you have knitted your brows, made a virtue of necessity, insisted on fair play, slept not one wink, stood on ceremony, danced attendance (on your lord and master), laughed yourself into stitches, had short shrift, cold comfort or too much of a good thing, if you have seen better days or lived in a fool's paradise - why, be that as it may, the more fool you, for it is a foregone conclusion that you are (as good luck would have it) quoting Shakespeare; if you think it is early days and clear out bag and baggage, if you think it is high time and that that is the long and short of it, if you believe that the game is up and that truth will out even if it involves your own flesh and blood, if you lie low till the crack of doom because you suspect foul play, if you have your teeth set on edge (at one fell swoop) without rhyme or reason, then - to give the devil his due - if the truth were known (for surely you have a tongue in your head) you are quoting Shakespeare; even if you bid me good riddance and send me packing, if you wish I were dead as a door-nail, if you think I am an eyesore, a laughing stock, the devil incarnate, a stony-hearted villain, bloody-minded or a blinking idiot, then - by Jove! O Lord! Tut, tut! for goodness' sake! what the dickens! but me no buts - it is all one to me, for you are quoting Shakespeare. (Bernard Levin. From The Story of English)
Ahem, I thought we were talking about the Nile flood??
the ptolemoi are already rich enough as it is...just like in vanilla~;)
Shakespeare's true name was William Fartnoise. Shakespeare is a phonetic acronym for "Sex Peer", a nick he gained by employing pieces of fruit in an unorthodox way.
http://www.oudefruitrassen.nl/Calebas%20peer.gif
Hyperlinks are tech. Such as this hyperlink.Quote:
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I could probably substantiate some of those with the OED, if you're interested in specific rebuttals. But the idea that every word or phrase that is known to occur for the first time in Shakespeare was invented by him is idiotic, and that's all we can prove: that something's first known occurrence is in Shakespeare. He may arguably have influenced the English language more than any other individual save William the Conqueror, but that everyone uses words every day that he invented? I suspect not. There could be good evidence for that, conceivably, but I haven't seen it if there is.Quote:
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What? We're still talking about shakesperae (SP?)? This is about Eb, not as a thread discusss Macbeth!~D
Yeah yeah I'm familiar with Shakespeare, but he used the language he saw fit, not the language in common use or grammatical correctness (putting things into blank verse was more important). The English Shakespeare used is actually far more difficult to understand (mostly because of the made-up words) than normal Elizibethan English. Maybe one of the reasons why so many phrases are commonly attributed to Shakespeare is that his works are well-preserved while so many others are lost to time? Bellytimbers for thought :~p