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Gunpowder, Treason and Plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot."
As some of you may know, Saturday is the four hundredth anniversary of the Gunpowder Plot, when Catholics attempted to murder the King and all his Parliament. And for this occasion I depart tomorrow for England, where I shall be celebrating this occasion in Lewes, where my uncle lives. There is going to be a parade through Lewes, with plenty of people in fancy dress and historical costume. Hopefully I will be able to post some pics, but otherwise I shall be unavailable over the weekend. Cheerio!
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Ah yes, that most English of celebrations, Guy Fawkes Night. A great excuse to eat Bonfire Toffee, burn big piles of wood and exploderise fireworks. I'm proud, because we're the only country that celebrate it.
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Ah, Bonfire night. An evening of cheap frankfurter hotdogs, searing fireworks, and cheap beer. No other celebration like it.
Mind you, now that I read those essential components back to myself, it's actually a pretty dangerous list.
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I'm lucky enough where my birthday is on Guy Fawke's Night, so I get fireworks on my birthday :charge: ~:cheers: ~D
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A celebration of bigotry and religeous persecution , nice .~:confused:
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Oh, come off it Tribesman. Aside from that not being Frontroom material, Bonfire night is just an excuse to have fun and blow things up.
It's entirely transcended the original meaning.
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Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar
I'm proud, because we're the only country that celebrate it.
Incorrect, New Zealand celebrates it as well... still proud?
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A celebration of bigotry and religeous persecution , nice .~:confused:
Celebrating the capture of terrorists. In this matter the terrorists where the bigots and the ones employing religious persecution...
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It's entirely transcended the original meaning.
Really , King Henry is going to the one in Lewes is he not , where he will watch burning crosses , be addressed by the "archbishops" and see the Pope burned .
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No politics or religion gentlemen.
Keep it festive or keep it elsewhere. :bow:
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I have not heard of this holiday... still, I think I prefer Oktoberfest. Not a drop of German in me, but I love it anyway.~:cheers: :barrel: :rolleyes5: (Add to that the fact that I am incapable of obtaining a hangover... ~D)
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My workplace is having a grand opening for the expansion on Guy Fawkes' Day. The English people who will come in will surely pepper me with jokes as they buy British food...
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I have deleted my original post because it does not conform with Beriut's request. I'll PM him instead.
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Ah yes... the exploding of fireworks, the eating of hot-dogs, and the drinking of beer. U.S. Independance Day is... Wait? Guy Fawk? huh?
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Ah, Bonfire night. An evening of cheap frankfurter hotdogs, searing fireworks, and cheap beer. No other celebration like it.
Seems pretty darn close to me. We call it the 4th of July.~D
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No you don't.....you call it pope day.
BTW we had this discussion last year, but for the 'newer' members
Here
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Here is an extract of the oath of allegiance from the colonists at Jamestown...
"I......M......doe trulie and sincerely acknowledge. professe testifie and declare in my Conscience before God & the world, That our Soveraigne Lord King James ys lawfull and rightful King of Great Britaine and of the Colony of Virginia, and of all other his Majesties Dominions and Countries. And that ye pope neither of himselfe, nor by any Authoretie of the Church or See of Rome, or by any other meanes (with any other) hath any power or authoritie to depose the King or to dispose any of his Majesties Dominions, or to authorise any forreine prince, to invade or anoy him in his Countries, or to discharge any of his subjectes of ther Allegeance and obedience to his Majesty or to give licence or leave to any of them to beare armes, raise, tumult, or to offer any violence, or hurt to his Majesties royall person, state, Goverment, or to any of his Majesties subjectes within his Majesties Dominions.
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The really odd thing, when you think about it, is that November 5 is a celebration of a failed coup attempt. Every other nation in the world (unless I'm completely wrong) has celebrations for the day when the coup succeeded, or the old colonial order left the place to a native government, or someone who was hated was overthrown.
But we Brits stand about in the damp night, and celebrate a cocked-up plotting against a 'foreign' (well, Scottish in England, but that was foreign then) King that no one really liked at the time.
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No, we are celebrating that the plot failed. Though James was indeed a Scot, the destruction of King and Parliament would most likely have brought a rebellion at the least, civil war and foreign invasion at the worst.
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I like the fact that CA guys respond to Frontroom Material. ~:cheers:
Wish I was with you guys....In Romania, we don't even celebrate Halloween!!! ~:mecry:
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But we Brits stand about in the damp night, and celebrate a cocked-up plotting against a 'foreign' (well, Scottish in England, but that was foreign then) King that no one really liked at the time.
Nothing better than an entire night dedicated to failure.
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It's entirely transcended the original meaning.
Really , King Henry is going to the one in Lewes is he not , where he will watch burning crosses , be addressed by the "archbishops" and see the Pope burned .
Well, Lewes is a bit mental. ~;)
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Well, Lewes is a bit mental.
Not entirely , they have decided that rolling burning barrels of tar down the hill is just a tad too dangerous nowadays .~;)
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. . . Bonfire night is just an excuse to have fun and blow things up. . .
I need an excuse?
ichi:bow:
ps happy 'Guy' day to all the Brits
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Gunpowder, Treason and Plot. I see no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot."
As some of you may know, Saturday is the four hundredth anniversary of the Gunpowder Plot, when Catholics attempted to murder the King and all his Parliament. And for this occasion I depart tomorrow for England, where I shall be celebrating this occasion in Lewes, where my uncle lives. There is going to be a parade through Lewes, with plenty of people in fancy dress and historical costume. Hopefully I will be able to post some pics, but otherwise I shall be unavailable over the weekend. Cheerio!
I live in Lewes and watch the celebrations every year, they never cease to amaze me, they're so spectacular. This year should be even better though.
The reason the Lewes celebrations are the way they are is because of the Protestant martyrs in the town who were burned at the steak by the Catholics, so at the time of the gunpowder plot there was still a lot of resentment for Catholics in the town. We also received one of Guy Fwkes' quarters, I believe, after his execution as a sort of recompense. Today, the festivals in Lewes have transcended religion though (despite the anti-papist message): 'the burning of the pope' refers to a specific pope, not the pope generally, as do the other catholic references. I know plenty of Catholics who are involved in the Bonfire societies and take part in the parades etc. (although there is always some kill-joy who writes a damning article in the local paper).
Anyway, which fireworks display are you going to King Henry? I always go to Borough, the oldest bonfire society, because it's on the hill and starts latest, so you can watch all the other displays whilst you're waiting (plus it's near my house, which is nice).
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going to a Bonfire tonight with all my mates, bonfire night rules, if only as an excuse to get hammered or as a romantic date with a girl
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The best thing, for me, is when the fun starts. I have a panoramic view of the city, I kid you not it is one hell of a sight. There must've been thousands of fireworks going off within a minute or two from each other last year. I get a beer, some spliff and turn the light off in my bedroom and just sit and watch the fun.....for free ~:cheers:
All the best to all those attending a bonfire. HF guys and remember the firework code. Hey, let's be careful out there. ~:)
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For those of you with British Television, remember the commercial, when your children are using sparklers, hold them at arms length! ~:cheers:
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Well, I'm on First Aid duty tonight with St Andrew's Ambulance Corps at the Lochee Park display, then afterwards I'll be out with some friends celebrating the failed attempt the kill the first King of Great Britain, and last King of Scots.
Those celebrations in Lewes sound mighty fine... I might go there one year if I find out where Lewes is...
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Well these people will certainly remember November the 5th....dreadful.
Gunpowder Plot
and the 'powers that be' urge the public to go to organised displays....think I'll stick to my back garden in future.....probably safer.
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So, did everybody have nice, safe time?
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and the 'powers that be' urge the public to go to organised displays....think I'll stick to my back garden in future.....probably safer.
Indeed. Having so many people at an 'organised' display is just calling for trouble. After all, the accident which got 11 people in hospital was organised, but people were still hurt. I've also heard that MP's want to make all Firework Displays to be run by the authorities, but that would just kill off Guy Fawkes Night, as Authorities would be afraid of things going wrong and getting sued, which would mean there'd be very few, if any Fireworks Displays.
Anyways, i went to a family display last night. There were about twenty of us there, all of them scousers, so they were all talking about something or another ('Have you heard the latest Kate Moss joke?' is a good example). Once we had all stuffed ourselves with food from the buffet that my Aunt had set up, we all assembled on the patio, sitting on plastic chairs. My uncles were in charge of the fireworks, and were drunk, so they had a lot of fun running about trying to set off as many Roman Candles as possible. Then, they brought out the big box, which fires out rockets one after the other. Unfortunately, it triggered panic when it started rainging red hot pieces of paper all over us. It was still fun though.
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My uncles were in charge of the fireworks, and were drunk, so they had a lot of fun running about trying to set off as many Roman Candles as possible.
thats what we do in Holland, the shooting each other with Roman Candles.
It's fun , but then again it's dangerous at the same time, and it can scorch your clothes if a fireball- for lack of a better word - hits you.
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