Antiquity:Total War preview:Egyptians

this is our first official preview for this mod~D
i have historians but if any of you can do anything at all come join up here
http://s10.invisionfree.com/Imperium_Total...hp?showforum=63
i really need a campaign map editor and a modeler.
if you can do text files join too i need you too :charge:
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Egypt was considered to be the most peaceful country in the ancient world. Its natural boundaries (the First Cataract on the Nile at Aswan, the deserts east and west of the Nile Valley, and the Mediterranean coast to the north) provided plenty of protection from outsiders, and Egyptians themselves were not a society of invaders or conquerors. Therefore, the country didn’t consider the need for a professional army – until the invasion of the Hyksos during the 15th Dynasty in the Second Intermediate Period.
Up until that time, Egypt had a loosely organized, part-time army and crude, inferior weapons. The army that was raised in times of need, i.e., during civil unrest, consisted of conscripts, who were generally peasants and artisans, led by noblemen. There was, however, a small core of regular soldiers, but they were mostly engaged as palace guards, border police, or trade ship escorts. So lax was the military that during the Middle Kingdom, Egypt’s simple infantry was made up of nothing more than older foot soldiers and inexperienced young men. Further, Egyptians were very hesitant to engage in conflicts outside their own country because they were afraid of dying and being buried elsewhere, thereby not receiving the necessary and appropriate funeral rites. Because of this fear, armies of the Old Kingdom were made up of foreign mercenaries.

Of course, there were some military campaigns carried out in early times, such as those of King Scorpion and King Menes (Narmer or Aha), whose military force enabled him to establish a united Egypt. From Menes’s time (circa 3100 BC), Egyptian kings headed the army under the guidance of war gods such as Seth, Sekhmet, and Montu, who led them to victory. In fact, a warring king was considered to be acting on behalf of the gods in an effort to bring order to the chaos caused by Egypt’s enemies. Temple scenes depict pharaohs leading their armies into battle and some ancient records, such as that of Ramesses II at the Battle of Kadesh, give the pharaoh credit for winning the battle single-handedly.

The Hyksos invasion forced Egypt to create a trained, professional army and improve its weaponry. The Egyptians learned valuable lessons from the Hyksos attack, and by the middle of the 18th Dynasty, Egypt had become a major military power and expanded its territory to become the first empire in the region. The new Egyptian army, supported by its navy, reached its peak during the New Kingdom, becoming more of an aggressive nation rather than the defensive one it had been previously.

According to the Edict of Horemheb at the end of the 18th Dynasty, during peacetime the army was split into an Upper Egyptian corps and a Lower Egyptian corps, and each was led by a lieutenant commander. In this capacity, the two armies covered several arenas: the were stationed at frontier forts, escorted royal processions, intervened in riots, and possibly even served as unskilled building labor.

While the details of some military campaigns and battles were not well documented, the organization of the army was. The chain of command, in order of rank, was:

King, commander in chief
General, or overseer of the army, who reported directly to the king
Lieutenant commander, serving as senior officer
Overseer of the Nubian frontier and Mediterranean coast fortresses
Overseer of garrison troops
Troop commander, in charge of several regiments, a brigade or a fortress
Captain of the troop
Commander of 250 soldiers
Standard-bearer, controlling 200 men
"Greatest of Fifty", the lowest commander

For major military actions, the pharaoh was the commander-in-chief and physically led his army into battle, while minor officials or princes led less significant campaigns. The vizier acted as the minister of war, taking advice from an army council. Prior to a battle, the king always consulted his senior officials.

The army itself was made up of the infantry and chariotry divisions, which were commanded by either the king himself or one of the princes. These divisions consisted of approximately 5,000 soldiers, and each division was named after an Egyptian god. What was in the past an unprepared infantry became a unit of trained soldiers, recruits, and specialized troops.

From the time of Amenhotep III on, most enlisted men were former prisoners of war. In the 18th Dynasty recruits would be brought in from Nubia; in later periods recruits came from many foreign areas. However, during the New Kingdom soldiers were recruited locally by conscription and by the time of Ramesses II, one man in ten was forced to serve in the military. In order to properly prepare recruits for battle, it was important that they take part in javelin throwing and wrestling competitions under the watchful eyes of the king and nobles.

Some men did not have to be recruited – they chose the army as their profession. The Ramesside Period saw many upper class Egyptian men become military officials, and these men received promotions and wealth quickly. Officers were always chosen from among the career army men. But there were other inducements to choosing the army as a profession – booty collected during a military campaign was distributed among these professionals, and the king also gave land to these men with the added incentive that their sons could inherit the land if they also served in the army. Herodotus recorded just such provisions:


"The warriors were the only Egyptians, except the priests, who has special privileges: for each of them an untaxed plot of twelve acres was set apart. …. A thousand Calasirians and as many Hermotybians were the king’s annual bodyguard. These men, besides their lands, each received a daily provision of five minae’s weight of roast grain, two minae of beef, and four cups of wine. These were the gifts received by each bodyguard."

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The chariot and chariotry were introduced to Egypt by the Hyksos. The Egyptian chariotry consisted of five squadrons, with twenty-five chariots in each and two men in each chariot: a driver and a soldier armed with bows and arrows, a shield, a sword, and a javelin. tipically these were very expensive to train and keep up so the unit in game will be very expensive.

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Within the chariotry was a powerful position known as the "First Charioteer of his Majesty". This man not only drove the pharaoh’s chariot, but also ventured into foreign lands to obtain stud horses. Between these horses and those that were taken as booty during military campaigns, the breeding stock of Egyptian horses was well maintained. The royal stable master trained the horses, while lower level stable masters fed and exercised them. It is believed that there was no cavalry because the horses were smaller and not strong enough to support a rider.

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these are the 'w'yt javlenmen
The throw stick does appear to have been used to some extent during Egypt's predynastic period as a weapon, but it seems to have not been very effective for this purpose. Yet, because of their simplicity, skilled infantry continued to use this weapon at least with some regularity through the end of the New Kingdom. It was used extensively for hunting fowl through much of Egypt's dynastic period.
this unit is cheap and easy to raise but has a low morale and weak attack.

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'w'yt spearmen are the basic infantryman of the pharoah, they are armed with a cheap wooden shield,and a stabbing spear. these men are not highly motivated, but are better trained them the javlenmen and are more likely to stand ground

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these are the 'w'yt axemen, nonthing much to say about this one.

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these are elite bowmen who do not have a chariot available. armed with a powerful bow and scaled armor, they are very likly to stand and fight ot the end to protect the land they have been given

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The pharaoh’s specialized troops were called "Braves of the King". These were the elite fighting forces that led attacks for the pharoah.
they are armed only with the finest available to the pharoah,including there imported syrian helments

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A group called the "Retainers" distributed rations to troops during the 18th Dynasty, acted as letter carriers during the Ramesside Period, and may have functioned as the royal bodyguards. They are armed only with the finest available to the pharoah,including there imported syrian helments

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these are mercenary sheridan bowmen and spear men.
Mercenaries were still important in the professional army of the New Kingdom. The number of foreigners including Medjay, Sheriden, and Libyans in the Egyptian army was so high that captains were specially designated to be in charge of them. By the latter part of the New Kingdom, these foreign mercenaries formed the majority of the army. It is interesting that by the 19th Dynasty, foreign mercenaries came from so many different places that at times, they fought in battles against members of their own former tribes.

finnaly a sig i made
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thanks to PyrrhusofEpirus for historical info
and comrade alexeo too
thanks and join up please :)

Is it just me, or are those all reskins?

I think they are.....

Anyways, good work Antiochus!!

Yeah this looks realy good! Keep up the good work.
~:cheers:

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Originally Posted by dark_shadow89

Is it just me, or are those all reskins?

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yes because im not a modeler~:mecry:
if i had that skill they would be a littile diffrent.
if you know of a modeler let me know please?

Mod Promotional stuff, previews etc. live in Mod Discussion. You're welcome to put a central co-ordinating thread in the Forge, but one thread per mod only in there please. :thumbsup:

ok thanks its just a small project of mine
just trying to get some modders(i need you)

This all looks good to me. What are the other factions? Is the map of the same scope as RTW or is it smaller?

all of the information you need is right here
http://s10.invisionfree.com/Imperium...p?showforum=63

we are picking up steam now, as i got an devoted skinner yay!

nice, but it just a "reskinning"....

I really can't understand what the trouble with modelling is, it's no big deal at all. in most cases my time goes to skinning anyway. and when modelling, you can see your skinning results instantly

keep up the good work though :san_cheesy:

Great! A late bronze age mod.
Good luck with it!

check the forums soon we got another preview coming up!
thanks for the support