New Thoughts!(ever Did This Before?!)

Hello. Last night I was playing RTW and had an interesting idea. Ever get bored of playing Carthage and starting in Carthage? Well this is a stupid but intersting idea: what if in the beggining of Carthage campaign you grab as many soldiers as you can and pack them into ships and then deport them all the way to Britain! THen let your carthaginian empire fall but you control britain? Or if your parthia and you pack as many soldiers as possible onto the black sea in ships and attack greece! I know this sounds dumb but it would be interesting to try. Think about the julii fighting Carthaginian force in Gaul.:)

It's something people have done before. Leaving home at the beginning and setting up camp in Hibernia (Ireland) is something people have told stories about here before, as well as other places.

Also, I think there's a mod that allows you to start in a random settlement at the beginning of the campaign. Worth a look if it still works with v1.3.

I think this is interesting especially since the Carthaginians originated not in north Africa but in the eastern Meditteranean. :elephant:
I could be wrong about this but aren't they the descendents of the Jews? So they were, in a diaspora sense, a people on the move, always looking for fertile shores to plant their seed, in one place dispossossed, in another settling.
I suppose its also similar to the continental migrations of the barbarians themselves.

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Originally Posted by KRALLODHRIB

I think this is interesting especially since the Carthaginians originated not in north Africa but in the eastern Meditteranean. :elephant:
I could be wrong about this but aren't they the descendents of the Jews?

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The Punics (the dominant ethnicity of Carthage) were descendants of the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians were a middle-eastern people who were great sea-farers and traders. They sailed across the Mediterranean and set up colonies in Northern Africa and in Spain. Their original homeland was conquered, but the colonies survived and the city of Carthage became dominant over the others.

I've tried this idea once and enjoyed it. It's a good way of making a game more interesting - when you tire of the given objective (take over the world), give yourself your own objectives.

Recently my second BI campaign had become pretty tiresome (nothing wrong with the game, I'd just been playing the same thing for too long) so in an effort to do something more interesting I actually ended up doing pretty much the opposite of what professorspatula talked about: Taking my Celts from Ireland (and Britain) and setting off all the way across the map to conquer the Sassanid Empire.

Admittedly it was more of an expeditionary force than packing up the whole civilization, and I ended up copping out and taking the long way round - crossing the North Sea and the Baltic, landing in (what is now) Russia and hugging the northern edge of the map before moving down through the Caucasus mountains. It was good fun though.

It was also unusual (for me) in that I actually went to the trouble to plan out the operation (the route, the strategy etc.) and work out the logistics etc. in advancce, something I'd rarely bothered to do before.

Antagonist

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Originally Posted by Antagonist

I've tried this idea once and enjoyed it. It's a good way of making a game more interesting - when you tire of the given objective (take over the world), give yourself your own objectives.

Recently my second BI campaign had become pretty tiresome (nothing wrong with the game, I'd just been playing the same thing for too long) so in an effort to do something more interesting I actually ended up doing pretty much the opposite of what professorspatula talked about: Taking my Celts from Ireland (and Britain) and setting off all the way across the map to conquer the Sassanid Empire.

Admittedly it was more of an expeditionary force than packing up the whole civilization, and I ended up copping out and taking the long way round - crossing the North Sea and the Baltic, landing in (what is now) Russia and hugging the northern edge of the map before moving down through the Caucasus mountains. It was good fun though.

It was also unusual (for me) in that I actually went to the trouble to plan out the operation (the route, the strategy etc.) and work out the logistics etc. in advancce, something I'd rarely bothered to do before.

Antagonist

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hmm, sounds fun... i may have to try something like that in my frank campaign it'd be kinda funny to abandon my like 5 provinces i hold in it and take off on an adventure... considering i'm like the dominant Barbarian faction... imagine an entire faction seemly disapear off the map then appear on the other side of the world

The Phoenicians were actully the decendants of, or a group of the Canaanites. They had plenty of contact with the Jewish state when it was formed, but I don't think they were at war. But religious competition did take place and it seems that the Phoenicians were winning for a good while, converting many Isralites. There is a famous passage in the Old Testament where the preachers of Baal (400 or so) had a religious battle with a single Jahwe preacher over who's god could light up a sacrificial pyre. Obviously the single Jahwe preacher won and the Baal preachers weer all killed when they lost.

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Originally Posted by Kraxis

The Phoenicians were actully the decendants of, or a group of the Canaanites. They had plenty of contact with the Jewish state when it was formed, but I don't think they were at war. But religious competition did take place and it seems that the Phoenicians were winning for a good while, converting many Isralites. There is a famous passage in the Old Testament where the preachers of Baal (400 or so) had a religious battle with a single Jahwe preacher over who's god could light up a sacrificial pyre. Obviously the single Jahwe preacher won and the Baal preachers weer all killed when they lost.

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Ahh, that brings back memories from sunday school Kraxis ~;)

That would be Elijah.

I tried this once as the julii, made a fatal mistake though, created a bunch of peons to populate the new territory, destroyed everything in my cities & marched off through gaul. Got attacked multiple times on the way, but made it ok to channel. Then two things happened. 1. realised I had no boats 2. had my last empty city taken over & lost the game :(

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Originally Posted by PseRamesses

Ahh, that brings back memories from sunday school Kraxis ~;)

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You know, school is being equated to work, so the simple fact that there is a sunday school would be against the claim that the sunday is holy and shouldn't be worked.~;)