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Ive recently "butted heads" with a few orgahs whos country shall not be named and they apprently think rugby can compare to American football. I will post now what I said there

wow Do you know why the average NFL football players life is 55 22 years younger than the average american? Have you seen Eric Dickerson or Gale Sayers latley? Does Rugby have 6'6 300 Lb men who can run sub 5 sec 40s? Men who can bench 500 squat 1000 lbs? How many people die in Rugby each year? Last year in Texas highschool football 5 kids died from on field injuries. Rugby is a rough game of tag with tiny men.

I don’t enjoy either. I like real football. :san_wink:

A game where you wear protection will always be more sissy than a game where you doesn`t, as long the basic is the same for both games.

Both games are equally boring anyway. Football(and curling:san_grin:) is the only fun sport to watch.

We only wear padding becuase people were getting killed and hell they still do. So America wins how sweet anoter victory of the communists

I beg to differ sfts. Rugby consists of the meanest, hard headed, bastards that you'll ever meet(Did I mention I play Rugby). On the other hand, American Football does involve more tactics, and thats why I enjoy watching it. However, a Professional Football Team, versus a Professional Rugby Team... I'd put my money on the Rugby guys.:san_cool:

The pads in American (gridiron) football are misunderstood by those not familiar with the game. They are there for protection, but also let you hit your opponent even harder.

Rugby does not have 300+ lb men because those guys would be useless in the game. Limited substitution and constant action (no huddles, play clock, TV timeouts, etc.) means that after about 5-10 minutes of play, the 300 pounders would be on the ground having heart attacks. Unlimited substitutions are the main reason American football players have been able to grown in size over the past 20+ years. Well, that and steroids. :san_wink:

I don't see why people are always trying to compare the two games. They are both physical, violent sports, but the rules dictate a different type of player. I enjoy both, I just wish they televised rugby here more often (maybe during the spring when all that is on is baseball and basketball :san_angry: ).

5 - 1 in favor of rugby...

Hehe:san_rolleyes:

Let's see... getting tackled by large angry American, or getting tackled by large angry Commonwealth citizen.

Neither.

Oh and note that not all football or rugby players are large. All of them are strong however. It does take extraordinary athletic skill in order to play both games (and a healthy love of being pain.)

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Originally Posted by strike for the south

wow Do you know why the average NFL football players life is 55 22 years younger than the average american?

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Yes. Steroids.


P.S.: I like both. But average life expectancy is greatly reduced for many in the NFL because of substance abuse. Just ask Lyle Alzedo or Bill Romanowski.

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Originally Posted by Wazikashi

Rugby consists of the meanest, hard headed, bastards that you'll ever meet

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Meet Stade Français, the biggest team in Paris then:

http://www.ohlalaparis.com/photos/un...ncais_pink.jpg

Watch the tv-commercial for their DVD here.

(And do check out their annual calendar! Posting a link will get me banned for life, so you'll have to do a google search yourself).

LOL, that's cool...I bet they like all those sweaty men all entangled...:san_lipsrsealed:

on one hand rubgy is a much more pure sport....and it doesn´t have the sissy pads that are used in american football....


on the other hand american football is more spectacular to be seen on tv....with the long passing shots, the cheerleaders and all that.....

both of the above points ae completelly mute tough since real football kicks both their asses!!!! :san_laugh:

Between Rugby and Football, I will go with the more violent sport, Rugby. The fact is, though, I much prefer baseball, even though it has gotten rather fowled up in recent years.

Doesn't American Football have breaks in play for TV ads?

That's an instant loss right there.

Ozzie: 'Play rugger?'
Frenchman: 'Let's go.'
Welshman: 'I'll kick off.'
American: 'Guys, guys -- can you wait half an hour while I put on a helmet and a mouthpiece and a shitload of protective gear?...'

I mean come on, we know where the real men roam. :san_tongue:

Like many non-Americans I can't stand the stop-start nature of American football. This renders the whole thing extremely unexciting for me, even though I can appreciate the tactical elements. A good, flowing game of rugby is far more interesting to my mind.

Drone's post said it all about comparing the games on anything but the level of personal preference.

i actually love american football.

And up until 1995, when rugby union went professional, there was no contest in the physicality of the players...

But these days its a different story.

I'd invite anyone to watch a game of european cup or super 12 and say the athletes lose much.

the only reason they aren't as heavy is because they can't go to the sidelines to breath oxygen after a set of plays...

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Originally Posted by Hurin_Rules

Yes. Steroids.


P.S.: I like both. But average life expectancy is greatly reduced for many in the NFL because of substance abuse. Just ask Lyle Alzedo or Bill Romanowski.

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Some of it yes but lately the NFLs testing has become top notch and although guys like Alzado wasted away becuase of choice most did not

Only if you play a match of rugby!:san_wink:

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yes but lately the NFLs testing has become top notch
Yes , because the failures of the drug testing program were blown wide open in a very public manner .

Ozzie: 'Play rugger?'
Frenchman: 'Let's go.'
Welshman: 'I'll kick off.'
American: 'Guys, guys -- can you wait half an hour while I put on a helmet and a mouthpiece and a shitload of protective gear?...'

American: guys guys --- oh you are kicking , oh thats not me thats another team:san_grin:

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Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat

Meet Stade Français, the biggest team in Paris then

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I would not like to be tackled by a hulking hairy frenchman in pink spandex. just the thought makes me feel somewhat dirty:san_laugh:

Well so far all this proves is us americans are outnumbered. Im getting really tired of the sissy pads stuff. These things are used as weapons. Just about every american boy has played football with no pads. Im telling you its a lot less violent that way. Ask anyone whos played. You get real brave with all that stuff on. Theve had to make rules about using your helmet for instance, Tell you what. See if you can find some film of some games fron the 60s or earlier before they made all these rules for safteys sake. It was brutal. Believe me you tend to play a lot harder with pads and with far more abandon.

And they dont die early in general because of substance abuse but of physical abuse.

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the only reason they aren't as heavy is because they can't go to the sidelines to breath oxygen after a set of plays...

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How about the Backs in football? Their not heavy and their fast as hell. Receivers also.

As for the starting and stopping thats the whole beauty of the game. Stratagey is a huge part of the game and every play is a battle in a war to gain territory or hold it.

US football was created by a bunch of panzy Yanks who wanted to win something. So they created a sport that is played for 1 hr but takes 6 hours to complete, so the yanks can have a rest between each jog

Men in body armour, I ask you what a load of...........

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Just my two pence worth from the home of the RUGBY world cup winner. :san_grin:
Or sorry to upset you YANKS as you have not/ will never win a WORLD CUP :san_kiss:

I used to enjoy watching American Football...until I saw the first game of rugby, that is. For me, there is nothing more enjoyable than a good game of rugger; be it myself playing or any of the top Northern/Southeren Hemisphere.

I also find the on and off of an American Football game extremely tiresome. And the refs throwing in the little yellow tissues when a foul is committed I find...well, never mind.

Overall, the choice is clear to me. Rugby anytime. Nothing in the world compared to Lomu trampling down the entire English defense or carrying five French players over the line with him. Brilliant.

Quid

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Originally Posted by strike for the south

Ive recently "butted heads" with a few orgahs whos country shall not be named and they apprently think rugby can compare to American football.

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Noo it doesn't, see rugby players don't wear any pansy-boy padding. BooooYahh

:san_laugh: It's funny how people try to always downplay the padding. As Gawain said previously, it just gives people an excuse to hit someone else harder. I think some of the worst hits I've ever taken in my life were from HS Football, however THE worst hits I've ever taken in my life were from Rugby...I've cracked my ribs several times, broken a few fingers, my nose twice, and my collar bone twice...I'm just lucky I haven't had the luxury of breaking my arm,leg, or jaw yet. Now that I think about it, I shouldn't even be on here chatting with intellectual types:san_grin:

SFTS, you have never played rugby have you?

I would say it is wrong to say Rugby doesn't involve much tactics. It is just that the tactics are told at the beginning of the game while the coach might shout on a few instructions during it as if it was a battle, whilst relying on the improvisation of the players.

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I would say it is wrong to say Rugby doesn't involve much tactics. It is just that the tactics are told at the beginning of the game

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You see thats the difference. Football is a far more strategic game. Its played just like a war. Every play is drawn out and practiced. Amd there ar options off ever play depending on what defense is called . If you ever look at how they draw them it looks like an invasion plan. Its strike and counter strike. They take pictures of every play like airial recon and disect whats going on and adjust to it.

Rugby is the tougher sport.

Football takes more skill.

How I know this, Rugby and Soccer player who play in the NFL are Punters and Kickers. I don't think that any Rugby player could throw a perfect pass to a receiver 50 yards down the field as he was taking a hit.

Now the pads. They are used to keep players in the game. If you have ever seen a NFL wide receiver go across the middle of the field and get destroyed by a Safety you would know this. Without the pads both players would be out of the game, and most likely a few games. People what to see the stars of the game play, not sit out.