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Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
Do you believe Elton Johns marraige will have an impact on the debate about gay marraige. I for one believe it will moreso than othe celebrity homosexual unions. What's your opinion?
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
You mean that Elton John is so popular that if he marries that all opposers start to accept their short-sightedness?
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
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Hold on for just one second. Elton John is gay????
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Meh is right, it probably have no effect on the debate. Some fence-sitters may be more accepting of gay marraige, but they aren't the ones making the noise. The serious opponents and proponents will continue as before, it won't affect the debate at all. I'm sure it will be in the news for a good long time. :san_rolleyes:
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
Of course it will, they're celebrities, we hang on their ever move and copy their every action
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Originally Posted by ian_of_smeg16
Of course it will, they're celebrities, we hang on their ever move and copy their every action
Depressing.
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I don't think it will make that much difference, possibly a little bit for the better.
More importantly, I am very proud that this Labour govt has extended the rights for homosexuals and other minorities and we have got to the point where gay people can now even marry. Never would have happened under a Tory administration. Well done Labour and the UK.
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Yeah good old Labour. Err new Labour. My goodness, you are such a party boy! Save it for the Student Union elections matey.
Gay "marriage". Don't much care really. The world certainly hasn't ended like some seemed to think, nor has God struck the infidels down with holy fire. Though there is still time, he might be busy. Anyway if Elton John wants to give his lover rights to his property if he dies (or, for that matter, if they split) then fair enough.
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
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Originally Posted by NeonGod
Depressing.
isnt it so? but then again, thats life.
On topic, Gay marriages should have been legal ages ago, its just silly prejudices that have been going on since god knows when that have stopped it being so.
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Dave your falling for the hype, Gay marriage still isnt legal in the UK. He was joned in a civil union . Even the Brits aint that nuts. Only Canada and a few other nations actually have gay marriage.
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Dave your falling for the hype, Gay marriage still isnt legal in the UK. He was joned in a civil union . Even the Brits aint that nuts. Only Canada and a few other nations actually have gay marriage.
Marriage in all but name - same rights, responsibilities and service. Even the news stations over here refer it as marriage, but if it saves your face and your demented belief system that it really isn't marriage, then sure, go for it.
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Dave your falling for the hype, Gay marriage still isnt legal in the UK. He was joned in a civil union . Even the Brits aint that nuts. Only Canada and a few other nations actually have gay marriage.
Actually I think as far as Elton John and his partner are concerned, it apparently was a marriage and not just a civil union.
The fact that it is not a legally acknowledged marriage does not mean that it is no marriage at all (AFAIK "marriage" is not a church or state registered brand).
If you refuse to call it marriage, that's your choice.
As for Dave's question - I think the impact will be at most incremental, I do not think that a lot of people who are against gay marriage will change their mind based on this case.
The ones who are sitting on the fence might be influenced either way - the fact that this gay marriage involved some colorful celebrity does not necessarily give gay marriage a touch of "normality"
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meh Civil union is just used to side step the church. Two guys married they arent hurting anyone the apocolypse isnt here. So I see no reason why gay marrige isnt legal.
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
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Originally Posted by Slyspy
Yeah good old Labour. Err new Labour. My goodness, you are such a party boy! Save it for the Student Union elections matey.
I do support the good thigns Labour does and I liek to point them out, especially here. The reasoning is quite simply because people don't know / want to know the good thigns Labour does or cannot understand why they are different to the Tories. Labour are the only form of govt which makes sense for the country.
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Gay Marriage is wrong.
Elton John is a popular and high-profile enough figure that his "marriage", however it turns out, cannot avoid having some impact on the debate one way or the other.
DA
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Originally Posted by JAG
I do support the good thigns Labour does and I liek to point them out, especially here. The reasoning is quite simply because people don't know / want to know the good thigns Labour does or cannot understand why they are different to the Tories. Labour are the only form of govt which makes sense for the country.
Get off your soapbox dude.
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JAG, admit it, you're employed by the Labour party propaganda arm aren't you?
"The reasoning is quite simply because people don't know / want to know the good thigns Labour does " was quite priceless.
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You guys just can't handle the truth. :san_wink:
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
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Originally Posted by JAG
You guys just can't handle the truth. :san_wink:
What JAG said. All these closet homosexuals posting against gay marriage are boring.
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
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Originally Posted by ian_of_smeg16
Of course it will, they're celebrities, we hang on their ever move and copy their every action
Yeah, now everyone wants to gay marry, even heterosexuals.
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Should have some effect. Since they're such a high profile couple whatever happens will provide a clear example for future debates to use, either for or against gay marriage depending on how it goes.
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
By the way Gawain, I thought you should know now, so you can think of the face saving excuses before the time - From next month gay couples are legally allowed to adopt children here. Maybe you can pretend they are not children but instead 'kids' for we all know the difference between a kid and child is huge!
We are proud of this legislation over here, it is only a matter of time before your country see's rational progressive sense and adopts (ha!) similar legislation.
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Originally Posted by JAG
By the way Gawain, I thought you should know now, so you can think of the face saving excuses before the time - From next month gay couples are legally allowed to adopt children here. Maybe you can pretend they are not children but instead 'kids' for we all know the difference between a kid and child is huge!
We are proud of this legislation over here, it is only a matter of time before your country see's rational progressive sense and adopts (ha!) similar legislation.
Again what JAG said, including the ha!
Good to have you back, m8. :san_cool:
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Originally Posted by Viking
Yeah, now everyone wants to gay marry, even heterosexuals.
Well I would marry Elton John if I got to inherit all of his money...:san_cool:
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I just want to say, for the record, I am opposed to gay marriage.
And I don't hate Elton John for being gay. I hate him for being a horrendously bad artist. But this is all beside the point.
The only people to be affected will be the Great Gasbags, who will trumpet both sides with increassed fervor. Other than that, no, it will have no effect whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by JAG
By the way Gawain, I thought you should know now, so you can think of the face saving excuses before the time - From next month gay couples are legally allowed to adopt children here. Maybe you can pretend they are not children but instead 'kids' for we all know the difference between a kid and child is huge!
We are proud of this legislation over here, it is only a matter of time before your country see's rational progressive sense and adopts (ha!) similar legislation.
Hopefully the whole country will soon, but my state already did, Ha!
I don't know if they can adopt here (Vermont), but they have been able to get civil unions for a while know.
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We will crush Vermont militarily.
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Originally Posted by Viking
Yeah, now everyone wants to gay marry, even heterosexuals.
Darn right. I'm giving it serious consideration myself. I've had my eye on Navaros for quite some time now...
What do you think, Nav?
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Re: Serious Elton John Marraige poll (no gay bashing!!!)and discussion
You see, this is why I may one day move to someplace like Latin America, where everyone thinks that Gay Marriage is wrong, and you can say it all day long and no one will question it. Because they simply can't see any reason to think about it otherwise. And I agree with them.
DA
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Originally Posted by Del Arroyo
You see, this is why I may one day move to someplace like Latin America, where everyone thinks that Gay Marriage is wrong, and you can say it all day long and no one will question it. Because they simply can't see any reason to think about it otherwise. And I agree with them.
DA
Why is it so wrong