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With the upcomming world championship in Germany a dutch company made a rather peculiar 'fun' item for the fans, that will no doubt be a hit (15.000 orders so far I believe)
http://www.helmpje.nl/theme.jpg
Now I love very bad humour, especially when it is deeply insulting someone's heritage, but I don't think this is being a very good guest, opinions?
I already hate the :furious3: World championship.
Well, the material could be a problem at the entry to the stadium.
Oh and by the way, it's written wrong.
It should read "Jetzt geht's los" (pretty embarassing :laugh4: )
I guess your German is quite good but for others it would be like
"Let go" instead of "Let's go" or sth similar.
Not that embarrassing, just an amplification of your faillure to make us speak it ;)
Careful, mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
There's enough time to blitz you till the WC starts. :wink:
I just read an (German) article about it yesterday.
Poor taste, IMHO - the rivalry between the Dutch and the Germans can certainly be a lot of fun, but one should be careful not to cross a line beyond it gets just nasty.
However, one should keep in mind that crossing this line is done by Germans as well (soory this one is also in German)
www.bildblog.de rocks! Thanks for the link Ser!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
A very good blog observing the fooleries and absurdities of Germany's
biggest Yellow press paper.
Oh, so that is where she is! Why do you germans have to steal all our talent, first Rudi Carrel and now Tooske :laugh4:
please close the borders before they come back!
If pushed, the sentence 'Jetzt geht los!' could be read as an exhortative, meaning 'Off you go now!' But no doubt you are right, the makers clearly wanted to state something like 'Now it's going to happen'.Quote:
Originally Posted by R'as al Ghul
And whatever it says, it has poor taste written all over it. :bow:
I chuckled when I first heard about it, and a friend of mine who's going to order a bunch of mine told me he'd keep one for me.
However, the more I think about it it's probably a bad idea. WW2 humour is one thing, but actually wearing this kind of stuff in public is overboard.
Fragony: did you order one?
One of my favourite websites ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by R'as al Ghul
I'm sorry I don't understand what that means I don't speak Japanese
So I conclude the "bad taste" is the actual shape of the headgear, vs the text?
Blimey, you mean someone has actually outdone the English in the inability-to-forget-the-war-when-annoying-the-Germans stakes?
Edit: re text am I misunderstanding or does it mean something like "lets kick off" would in English (ie "lets have a fight")
Edit: re text am I misunderstanding or does it mean something like "lets kick off" would in English (ie "lets have a fight")
In english it would be 'it's on'. There is no hostility in it, I just think it is a bit too much.
Blimey, you mean someone has actually outdone the English in the inability-to-forget-the-war-when-annoying-the-Germans stakes?
Oh boy ^^
The shape of the headgear, because it's using a WW2 icon to make fun of the Germans.Quote:
Originally Posted by KukriKhan
Plus the fact that the WC happens to be in Germany makes it even more respectless and provocative.
It's practically a national hobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by English assassin
I want one!
I will wear it around my German friends who will be bemused by my lack of Dutchness.
That seems just fine to me. I'd get one if I cared about Soccer.
DON'T MENTION THE WAR!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by English assassin
http://blogs.philly.com/blinq/images/basil.jpg
:laugh4:
oh I get it https://img473.imageshack.us/img473/...heme5pz.th.jpghttps://img473.imageshack.us/img473/...helmetb6tf.jpg silly dutch and there nazi propaganda
Very bad taste. Very insulting. Germany has moved past that time in history, has done everything it can to rectify the injustice caused by the Nazi's and is now one of the great democracies and securers of intenational goodwill. It is time to forgive, maybe not forget so history won't repeat itself, but to use this type of symbolism is very tastless.
man DD what happend you use to be cool:book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
I don't know what to think about it, really. I suppose to use a WWII icon (the helmet) is a bit steep but the writing on it is nothing else but silly mockery; nothing to be worried about.
It's not surprising that this was going to happen. Holland and Germany have always enjoyed this little rivalry. I am waiting for the German reply which is bound to happen. I hope it's at least something original.
Overall, I woudn't be too worried about it. It's nothing out of the ordinary, after all. Just wait until the Swiss are coming with the swinging alphorns. That will teach you all a lesson :2thumbsup:.
Quid
One of the problems with this cheap shot by the Dutch is that it's hitting somebody who is not allowed to hit back in kind. The most cutting response the Germans could retort with would be something along the lines of calling the Dutch a bunch of blouse-wearing, weak-kneed surrender-monkeys and then having the German soccer team stencil the word Blitzkrieg on their jerseys. But given the fact that this would be in even poorer taste than the Dutch opening salvo, combined with German sensitivity over their actions in WWII, the Germans would never stoop so low.Quote:
Originally Posted by quid
...or maybe they will simply beat the Dutch at the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
Seriously, though, I agree with you there. I don't really see any way how this could be 'topped' by the Germans. Then again, never underestimate them either. I still believe that SOMETHING will come in response.
Quid
Good point about the Germans retort being blackballed, but I don't think this is in too much of poor taste. It's not very funny, granted, but I don't see much to get too worked up over. Maybe if it had something to do with the Holocaust specifically, but of course it can be argued the two are inextricably linked.
It's hard for me to imagine the political correctness in Europe when it comes to the Nazi issue. You'd think the least the Germans could do would be to put up with a few jokes at their history, but I usually hear more Germans being offended by this stuff than the Survivors themselves.
Hope I'm not offending any German friends here, but it's hard for me to understand where the line is drawn with jokes about your history, being an uncultured American, yanno.
:help:
I don't agree. If we forget does that not mean we cannot repeat, since we cannot remember how it hapened. :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
Also the hat is cool. I don't see how they are attacking Germany, considering Holland had its own nazi party that ruled over them at the time of the war.
I would think the younger/middle generations would not be easily offended. Hahah, a little fun at the past but they know the future of their country is in their hands. Veterans or those with close relations to vets might be offended because it represents something they fought and died for regardless of politics.
Rabid football fans aren't known to be the most tactful bunch, this will serve as an icebreaker for getting into brawls :D
Now anyone know about some anti-american fun-poking that people will be sporting? I would like to see it. :D
Whats The thing say any way??
"Lets go loose?"
And if it does say that. and the dutch will be wearing em...
nows that insulting german's?
if my VERY poor translation is any where near correct. isnt that a insult to dutch?
P.s
My german extends from the word Fruit. All the way to the sentance.. "fruit Juice"
I cant even Say Can I have,
So my translation is probably MILES off.
Nazism is cool?Quote:
Originally Posted by strike for the south