The Israeli anti-semitic cartoons contest

Why is it that Iran is picking on the Jews by running their anti semitic cartoon consest when Israel had nothing to do with the cartoons of Mohamed? Anyway Israel has decided to foght back and have a contest of their own.
The Israeli anti-semitic cartoons contest.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...&ssbinary=true

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While riots over the cartoon depiction of Muhammad continue to rage worldwide and controversy surrounds an Iranian newspaper's decision to hold a Holocaust cartoon competition, an Israeli cartoonist has come up with his own ironic - some say misguided - response. And it's attracting a wide audience.

Amitai Sandy, 29, a Tel Aviv graphic artist, has launched the Israeli Anti-Semitic Cartoon Contest, a challenge, led by Jews, to find the best cartoons, caricatures and short comic strips that demonize the Jewish people.

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The Jerusalem Post

I'm sure they could find some doozies.

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Well I like this one thats entered in the contest.

http://www.boomka.org/entries/moses-...-higgins-s.jpg

These will be new ones drawn by Jewish artisits. I dont know if they will accept them from just anyone. Though Higgins doesnt strike me as a Hebrew name.

This doesn't seem real. I am dreaming? Or has the world always been this crazy.

Oh. In that case, I'm sure they'll find plenty of inspirational material to work with too. :idea2:

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Why is it that Iran is picking on the Jews by running their anti semitic cartoon consest when Israel had nothing to do with the cartoons of Mohamed?

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This whole subject has already been dealt with in other threads. Anyway, as I wrote in another thread: Who else but an anti-Semite would be blind to the profound idiocy of this ‘retaliation’? 'Europeans are picking on Mohammed? Let us pick on the Jews!'

And this picking on Jews, in turn, reflects a profound, endemic anti-Semitism in Muslim countries, the message behind the contest being that Jews are pulling the levers of western society. This is the 'logic' behind the contest. Just last week Iran's supreme leader Khamenei stated that Israel was behind the publication of the Danish cartoons. Khamenei explained that Israel conspired against the world's Muslims through the cartoons as a result of their frustration over Palestine: the drawings are a ‘conspiracy by Zionists who were angry because of the victory of Hamas’.

The Iranian paper Hamshahri launched its Holocaust cartoon contest together with the House of Caricatures, a Tehran exhibition center for cartoons. Both the paper and the cartoon center are owned by the Tehran Municipality which is dominated by allies of President (and former Tehran mayor) Ahmadinejad, a man who claims that the Holocaust is a myth and that Israel should be wiped off the map. The mere mention of Hamshahri and its contest in connection with freedom of speech (or any other freedom, for that matter) is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by The Jerusalem Post

Dan Sieradsky, 26, a Jerusalem Web designer and editor of the blog Jewschool saw the effort as ironic. (..) "The Israelis are taking something used against them and co-opting it as a way to empower themselves. In that, it will reduce the impact an anti-Semitic cartoon can have, because it shows that whole venture is ridiculous."

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Exactly.

The first thing that came to mind when I read this was the "Anti-Dentite" Seinfeld episode.

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Originally Posted by Seinfeld

Jerry: I need to talk to you about my friend, Dr. Tim Whatley. I think he's converted to Judaism just for the jokes.
Priest: And this offends you as a Jewish person?
Jerry: No, it offends me as a comedian.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Well I like this one thats entered in the contest.

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Good pick. :2thumbsup:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=132

Always with the Jews. I don't get it. This is a global obsession. Why does any one even care about the Jews? Okay we get it, they're Jewish. What the hell is the point?

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Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

Always with the Jews. I don't get it. This is a global obsession. Why does any one even care about the Jews? Okay we get it, they're Jewish. What the hell is the point?

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An incredibly great and nonsense obsession maybe. Maybe as one proverb says : "Smoke only rises where there is a fire". Who knows ?

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

An incredibly great and nonsense obsession maybe. Maybe as one proverb says : "Smoke only rises where there is a fire". Who knows ?

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So you think there is a kernel of truth to anti-Semitism? What would that kernel be? That Jews drink blood with their dinner? That Jews secretly control the world? Some other tenet of anti-Semitism?

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Originally Posted by AdrianII

So you think there is a kernel of truth to anti-Semitism? What would that kernel be? That Jews drink blood with their dinner? That Jews secretly control the world? Some other tenet of anti-Semitism?

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Agreed. Let's hear it.

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

An incredibly great and nonsense obsession maybe. Maybe as one proverb says : "Smoke only rises where there is a fire". Who knows ?

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Boy, this is telling... Sheesh. :no:

Hey, chill, there is a simple statement over there, whatever you'd like to hear, I don't have a single idea about it. :laugh4:

Edit : So what is the story behind all this anti-semitism ? On which basis do you ground this hate? Did people wanted to have some fun and they drew Jews out of the box ? What do you think ?

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

Hey, chill, there is a simple statement over there, whatever you'd like to hear, I don't have a single idea about it. :laugh4:

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Let me tell you something, LeftEyeNine. If someone within hearing distance of me starts shooting off about Turks or Arabs being [insert prejudice] I give them what for. I have done so several times and I bear a nice scar on my left leg as a reminder. Same thing here on the board. If my dear compatriot F. starts one of his little rants about immigrant crime, I verbally rip him apart. Maybe you've seen us bickering; we don't take prisoners and he usually ends up dead. Figuratively, that is, because I think he is basically a good guy and his main problem is to get his genuine fears and concerns across in acceptable fashion. Maybe the same applies to you. You have a problem with Jews? Spit it out. We'll rip you apart, don't worry, but I will still send you that postcard of a doner because I think you are a decent guy and your real problem is Turkish nationalism or Israeli policies or Muslim sensitivities or whatever. So decent, in fact, that since I couldn't find that card in the shop, I have asked my beloved to draw one specially for you. She is an artist and she is drawing one fine surrealist yum-yummie doner postcard for LEN. See? That is how much I 'hate' you, or Muslims, or Turks, or whatever. I have no such issue with you, and I can't accept that you would have an issue with Jews.

Amen. :balloon2:

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Amitai Sandy, 29, a Tel Aviv graphic artist, has launched the Israeli Anti-Semitic Cartoon Contest, a challenge, led by Jews, to find the best cartoons, caricatures and short comic strips that demonize the Jewish people.

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Great idea! That's what moral superiority is all about.

That'll piss off those boomskis. http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/violent/detonate.gif

~:idea: Hey, wouldn't it be great if a Jew won the Hamshahri contest?! Then they would have to give a Jew the gold and everyone could blame them for "helping the evil zionists" :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

Always with the Jews. I don't get it. This is a global obsession. Why does any one even care about the Jews? Okay we get it, they're Jewish. What the hell is the point?

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They control a large part of the media in the western world. They also managed to get a foothold in the economy of the united states, so they have influence over politics as well. This is what is called misleading vividness on the part of the media in terms of Israel/Palestine/Holocaust. Think about it, do you really think we would give a crap if Palestine was fighting against anybody else but Israel, I think not. It would be like all the other conflicts in the world. Hell more people have been killed in war in the Congo in the last 10 years than all of the entire Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Just because something is in the media doesn't mean we have to talk about it, but we do. I mean do a search for how many Paris Hilton threads there have been in the Backroom and that should give you a pretty good idea of what I am talking about.

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Originally Posted by AdrianII

Let me tell you something, LeftEyeNine. If someone within hearing distance of me starts shooting off about Turks or Arabs being [insert prejudice] I give them what for. I have done so several times and I bear a nice scar on my left leg as a reminder. Same thing here on the board. If my dear compatriot F. starts one of his little rants about immigrant crime, I verbally rip him apart. Maybe you've seen us bickering; we don't take prisoners and he usually ends up dead. Figuratively, that is, because I think he is basically a good guy and his main problem is to get his genuine fears and concerns across in acceptable fashion. Maybe the same applies to you. You have a problem with Jews? Spit it out. We'll rip you apart, don't worry, but I will still send you that postcard of a doner because I think you are a decent guy and your real problem is Turkish nationalism or Israeli policies or Muslim sensitivities or whatever. So decent, in fact, that since I couldn't find that card in the shop, I have asked my beloved to draw one specially for you. She is an artist and she is drawing one fine surrealist yum-yummie doner postcard for LEN. See? That is how much I 'hate' you, or Muslims, or Turks, or whatever. I have no such issue with you, and I can't accept that you would have an issue with Jews.

Amen. :balloon2:

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Honesty is my way of life. You should ask about spitting out hate and licking it back to Fragony that called all Islam "sick and perverted" and despite everything he'd invite me to his home.

Not my style, get away with it. If you have to memorize this in order to understand what I wanted to mean indeed, please do so.

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Hey, chill, there is a simple statement over there, whatever you'd like to hear, I don't have a single idea about it. :laugh4:

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And this..

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An incredibly great and nonsense obsession maybe. Maybe as one proverb says : "Smoke only rises where there is a fire". Who knows ?

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..means that I don't have a clear idea about Jews. I don't like Israel, nor Palestine but I don't have something to spit out. If I had, you'd hear the sound of splash, clear ? You owe me an apologize for putting my personality into a shape that I hate when I see on any others.

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

You owe me an apologize for putting my personality into a shape that I hate when I see on any others.

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I am glad to hear that, and I do apologise for getting you wrong. "Smoke only rises where there is a fire" can easily be interpreted as "Hatred of Jews only rises when there is reason to hate them". Hence the misunderstanding. Maybe you should add an idiom function to that excellent Maxthon browser. ~:)

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I am glad to hear that, and I do apologise for getting you wrong.

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Man has balls when he has the power to apologise. Accepting apologies and bowing back for your sensivity :bow:

"Smoke only rises where there is a fire" proverb in Turkish is used to define sitiuations such that if there is a discomfort, unrest or trouble (adverbs can be strengthened) somewhere there is a reason. I think you all missed the edit in my message afterwards saying :

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Edit : So what is the story behind all this anti-semitism ? On which basis do you ground this hate? Did people wanted to have some fun and they drew Jews out of the box ? What do you think ?

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

Man has balls when he has the power to apologise. Accepting apologies and bowing back for your sensivity :bow:

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That gets my "wise post of the week."

I don't have a problem with Jews at all, my English teacher is Jewish and it bothers me not at all. FYI her name is Clayton so there's nothing in a name, "Jewsihness" goes down the female line, remember?

What I do have a problem with is the way Isreal is run, and so do plenty of Isrealies and Jews in Europe. The USA props up the Isreali economy because something like 40% of their GNP goes into defence. Isreal has the 4th largest army in the world, or at least is did five years ago. Then when you look at the way the Palastinians are treated and the fact that Isreal is probably in violation of more UN resolutions than Saddam was and you see where Iran gets its leverage.

The God to honest truth is that Europeans and Americans see Isreal as a little bit of Europe in Arabia and thats why they get money for doing things other countries get sanctions for.

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Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

Always with the Jews. I don't get it. This is a global obsession. Why does any one even care about the Jews? Okay we get it, they're Jewish. What the hell is the point?

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The point is that Jews have become something that the media knows better than to try desecrating or insulting. Yet Christians are seen "fair game" for the media to slander and desecrate in ways that they wouldn't even dream about doing to the Jews.

Now some idiot cartoonists & newspaper publishers are trying to move Muslims into the "fair game to desecrate" slot.

The point the Muslims are making via the holocaust cartoon contest is that the media on the whole has a double standard that they are trying to impose against Muslims.

Yeah, sure none ever made fun of the jews in a movie or in a cartoon. :dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall

What I do have a problem with is the way Isreal is run, and so do plenty of Israelis and Jews in Europe.

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Exactly, and that makes it all the more stupid to equate Jews with Israel.

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Originally Posted by A.Saturnus

Great idea! That's what moral superiority is all about.

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Agreed! That's really cool.
You can say many things about the jews (though not as much as about most other people), and I for one consider them to have most of the same flaws as other people, but if I may generalize slightly I'd say that my impression is that jews seem to be prone to having a sense of humour. (I don't usually give a lot of thought to who's a jew and who's not, but they tend to mention it themselves from time to time, plus you can tell because they get to make jokes about jews.)

There are exceptions, of course. I don't think you get to work at the Simon Wiesenthal Center if you've got a sense of humour.

My :2cents:

Right, so the Jews were kicked out of their homeland by the Romans and settled elsewhere. Unlike many disposessed they did not interbreed, but kept themselves to themselves, thus setting themselves us as a "them" whenever the locals needed a minority scapegoat - or cash. The plebs will kill for spite, but the bosses will sanction it if they can swipe all their assets (or wipe their own personal debts to the Jews).

In the Middle Ages Christians wern't allowed to lend money, and Jews were often banned from just about everything else. The Jews being a hardworking people came to prosper because of this, and of course were hated due to their success. Even cheap shots can be seen in the Merchant of Venice where the hero outwits the Nasty Jew (although the play suffers from a serious flaw).

Calling oneself the "chosen people" is not a good way to get on - especially when you don't mix with others again implying superiority.

Europe has until extremely recently had simmering fear / envy / hatred of the Jews. Ignoring the Nazis, there were several other grizly episodes early last century. I forget the source, but in Romania a group of Jews aged between 14 female and an 80 male were hung with piano wire and then skinned alive.

So, yes there are many rich Jews. And yes they invest money. And yes, Christians have a habit of going bonkers every few years and slaughtering them. If your family tree has entire branches that are missing, it'd be a long time before the memory completely faded that today's neighbour can sometimes be the leader of tomorrow's mob.

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Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall

What I do have a problem with is the way Isreal is run, and so do plenty of Isrealies and Jews in Europe. The USA props up the Isreali economy because something like 40% of their GNP goes into defence. Isreal has the 4th largest army in the world, or at least is did five years ago. Then when you look at the way the Palastinians are treated and the fact that Isreal is probably in violation of more UN resolutions than Saddam was and you see where Iran gets its leverage.

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Israel spends 8.7% of their GDP (as of FY 2002) on military expenditures - a far cry from 40%, though still significant. In light of Israel's history, though, perhaps it is justified.

I do not know the exact size of the Israeli military, though I doubt that it is or was the 4th largest army in the world based on raw size. Israel's total population is less than 7 million, and I'm sure there is at least a few militaries that are larger than the entire state of Israel. If you argue that it was the 4th largest as a percentage of population, you may be right, but the Israeli military is at least somewhat dependant on reserves and conscription.

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The thing about Jews in the Middle Ages was they were allowed to lend money for interest which Christians weren't . This was seen as impious and as Jews were the only ones able to be profesional bankers they could charge quite harsh rates. That and the whole "them and us."

The current problem though is the creation of Israel, which wasn't really justified, especially since the ejection of the Jews was a bit of the myth. Yes it was done but most of their kids went back to the homeland. The fact is the Palastinians are probably just as likely to be Jews converted to Christianity or Islam as Arabs from over the border.