Australian PM Condemns Extremist Muslim Immigrants

PM inciting hatred, says cleric

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The debate was ignited by the publication yesterday of Mr Howard's long-held concerns that "raving on about jihad" by a minority of the Islamic community and the conservative attitudes towards women were two problems that Australia had not faced with previous immigrant groups.
Mr Howard revealed his thoughts in an interview with The Australian for The Howard Factor, a book to be published next week to mark the 10th anniversary of his rise to power.

"I stand by those comments," Mr Howard said in Sydney yesterday.

"These attitudes are not typical of all Muslims but they do represent the attitudes of a small section of the Islamic population and there's no point in not saying so.

"I hope it will encourage the broader Islamic community to understand that it is an issue."

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Well the debate is on now in Australia.

Should immigration stop those with extreme points of view and no intention of being multicultural be allowed into a country?

How does a religious extremist differ from a secular one?

It becomes difficult to maintain multiculturalism when cultures within the spectrum show so little intiative and respect for multicultural values. This is seen in a lot of the skin head type gangs, some of the very conservative christain groups and obviously as this is the center of the current debate some of the extremists in the Muslim community.

Just have naked women on the immigration desks. That should put them off.

It becomes difficult to maintain multiculturalism when cultures within the spectrum show so little intiative and respect for multicultural values.

Looks like someone woke up. Morning.

shocktherapy works I guess.

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Originally Posted by Papewaio

PM inciting hatred, says cleric



Well the debate is on now in Australia.

Should immigration stop those with extreme points of view and no intention of being multicultural be allowed into a country?

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Seems an obvious one to me, yes immigration should stop anyone from entering who they believe will disrupt the australian way of life.

I believe it is the duty of the immigrant to integrate themselves into the host country, and it is the responsibility of the country to help them, not the other way round. But maybe it's just me, if I was immigrating I would see the emphasis on myself to conform, so to speak.

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Originally Posted by Ja'chyra

I believe it is the duty of the immigrant to integrate themselves into the host country, and it is the responsibility of the country to help them, not the other way round.

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What is the Australian way of life? Or the Dutch way of life, for that matter? I like to think that the Dutch way of life includes tolerance towards ideas, customs and beliefs that are new or foreign to my nation and a potentially enriching influx. It has often been that way in our history, we have benefited from wave upon wave of immigrants from various parts of Europe and the rest of the world: Jews from Antwerp, Chinese migrants from Hong Kong and Guangdong, Indonesians and Surinamese from our former colonies, Turks, Greeks, Italians, Moroccans and all sorts of other European and non-European migrants who came to work here. They have brought tremendous positive changes to Dutch culture. And The Neds are not exactly alone in this.

All I demand is that immigrants accept and actively support the basic tenets of Dutch democracy and the rule of law. Ninety-nice percent of immigrants do so. No prob there.

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Originally Posted by AdrianII

What is the Australian way of life? Or the Dutch way of life, for that matter?

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Oh I don't know, maybe a way of life where someone isn't beheaded for drawing a cartoon? Or maybe its not having to fear rioting and looting from percieved "injustices". I guess the Western way of life is getting past a 7th century mindset which these extremist (which seem to be a LOT larger in number than multiculturists libs would like us to believe) can't seem to get out of.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

It becomes difficult to maintain multiculturalism when cultures within the spectrum show so little intiative and respect for multicultural values.

Looks like someone woke up. Morning.

shocktherapy works I guess.

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You do realise that jack booted skin heads fall into the category of those who show little intiative and respect for multicultural values.

Right wing extremists, secular or religious are a danger in any decent society.

The PM is highlighting the ones whose values do not allow for respect of others.

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All I demand is that immigrants accept and actively support the basic tenets of Dutch democracy and the rule of law. Ninety-nice percent of immigrants do so. No prob there.

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The PM has highlighted to main things, Jihad against fellow Australians is not tolerant. Being sexist to the point of treating women as second class citizens is also considered to be another issue within the muslim extremists.

There are other groups that do not wish to tolerate other cultures... for instance Jack van Tongeren and his neo-nazi thugs...

There is nothing wrong with immigration the problem today is the sheer volume of people and the distance they travel. When it used to take a few generations for a population to get from A to B they got aclimatised a bit as they went and by the time they got to B it wasn't so painful for the locals.

Immigrants should try to integrate with the locals anf not demand the society change for them. Society will change a bit because there's a new group of people in it but the immigrants have to make the bigger change to get along.

The last time we got these kinds of volumes of people moving at these speeds and no integrating was around 1,700-1,500 years ago and it was the inspiration for a game we've all been playing recently.