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Okay, our turn to start an omg-quick-hand-me-some-Kleenex-because-they-all-hate-us whine thread.
I mean, disregarding the fact that we nuke islands in the Pacific, blow up Greenpeace vessels in Australia, colonized South-East Asia, install sick puppet regimes in Africa, abondon America in war, try to break-up Canada, extort money from Europe and piss-off the English for a national sport, what have we ever done to deserve the world's wrath?
Let's hear it, lads.
Cos i'm english, its the only thing we're good at!
I'm English. It's in my bones. Some things are in the national psyche and since it's taken about 1,000 to get them there, they ain't going any time soon.
I hate France at a viceral level. Everything france does right is a grudging admission that they didn't completely screw up, every mistake is further evidence that the universe is working properly.
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In the inside your too much like America... or is it vice versa?
So true....Quote:
Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
The question is 'why hate France?'. It would be so much quicker to list reasons why I dont hate France... :laugh4:
Only thing I can think of- a grudging respect for Napoleon....
....and Im done.
Only joking France, love ya really. :2thumbsup:
How can anybody hate France, it's the land of love (or so they say)...But I'll hate France anyway for at least five months until the World Cup is over.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
I'm half Prussian. What more can I say?
I'll be invading in the summer. Watch out for me in Paris.
To hate France would require me to care what effects of the French Government has on the world and most important myself.
Since I in no way shape or form care one bit about what France is doing, is about to do, or planning to do - I have no feeling one way or the other about them.
Now as for Parisians - well lets just say they make me :dizzy2:
No! No! For the love of God, love France or loathe France, but don't be indifferent towards her! It undermines my feeling of self-importance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
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I'm English, I resent France on a national level. On an individual level I've met some very nice French people.
Why:
In 1066 you screwed up our country and it took 500 years just to get back to where we started.
Your women, on average, look better than ours.
Napoleon.
Leaving us in the lurch when we try and help you out.
Most of all, your self-importance.
In the end we English consoul our selves with the fact that we kicked your arse, repeatedly.
i'm american, the french when they don't rip us off (american revolution and [i]then[i] the french revolution) are screwing us over and other than that they have no balls and seem to back out of any real engagemenrt since 1920 leaving us to spend the money and men to solve there problems.
plus they got napoleon
Becasue when we visit your country you expect us to talk french... I think we are streching far enough already by talking another foreign language (thus excludes US and UK citizens). It is only fair to be met halfway at least.
That is about the best argument I can come up with... I know pretty bad.
To be honest I have no qualms with France itself. Besides the arrogance, but as noted in the other thread we are all arrogant, especially if we have something to have it in, then we get super extra mega oversized arrogant. And in Scandinavia we tended to boost each other, like an evil friendly pressuregroup.
i can understand trying to learn the language while there.
All nuclear powers begin as nuclear powers by testing their nukes. And France is not the only country to test it in the Pacific. And there are many other non-nuclear countries who are doing more damage with their own nuclear wastes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Look at North Korea. They are advertising themselves as a nuclear power but no one will acknowledge it until they see a test.
I never heard about it. If you do not mention it then people will not use it as a reason to hate France.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
I do not know the details of the colonization. All I know is that South-East Asians became better cooks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Africans seem to like you still. A lot of them are moving to France. I know that there are plenty of famous Africans who have successful lives in France. The Africans who live in France and hate France do not hate France for the puppet regimes. A lot of those Africans are actually French nationals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
American textbooks never say that. They probably do in college, but American students rarely take the higher history courses. They just do not think it has anything to do with their life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Bah! People make fun of you for losing wars, and then they make fun of you for being close to accomplishing something in the world. It is hard to please them. They are just jealous of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Hmm...People outside Europe do not care or do not know what you do with that continent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
I have never seen hooliganism between the French and the English. Plus, there are plenty of countries who would love to beat the strong English team and brag about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
If you re there for a week you learn nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by master of the puppets
Three months is a worthwhile time to learn at least something. But we are talking about tourists.
It is simply annoying to step into a place, try to ask for something in english... Silent stare... try german... silent stare... try various hand gestures... silent stare... try danish in an annoyed voice... silent stare. By that time you are pretty convinced that at least once the intended person understood what you said but chose to not respond.
Or better yet, when asking for directions (take your pick of language) you get a response in french. Now I can make out a few things in french, but directions? If I ask in english it is because I can't speak french. If you can't (or won't) speak english or make yourself clear, then just make it clear that you can't help.
I don't hate the France, I just disagree with a lot of the decisions the government decides to make.
Seriously? I thought that William the Conqueror was the best king Britain had in all medieval history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall
I like your food, women and movies.:2thumbsup:Thats about it.~;)
Hygiene, or lack there of.:laugh4:
Unfortunately for you - I am indifferent towards all of Europe except for one country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
So I will have to undermine your feeling of self importance. :oops: :laugh4:
I like the French...
One of my best friends is French...
Hell, France is awsome...
Yeah Louis!:2thumbsup:
i love france. i have nothing bad to say about it, or its people.
i'm willing to bet that anyone who is decidely pro-american and anti-french has never been.
I didn't hate France until Louis VI the Fat listed all those reasons in the first post. Now, I hope Bush invades.
I don't consider France very important, so I don't have strong opinions. I do disagree with a lot of their policies, but I have enough to worry about over here.
I haven't been to France, but the French students in my school are great. They have a much higher maturity level, general knowledge, and political views than most of my countrymen.
Truffaut is cool. Luc Besson is cool. Dumas is cool. I like souffle and fondue. Van Gogh and Monet (et al).
Eh, that's all I really know about the French.
I don't hate France, I just find it funny that as a generalization they can't win a fight against a single Indonesian boy with crutches.
French language is far too difficult:furious3:
I don't hate Franch myself but here's reason why I tend to dislike them.
The following are generalizations, not for ALL French.
Stuckup to tourists and as tourists
I don't understand how of all the "latin/germanic" languages they learned to pronounce things the way they do.
Louis the Fair killing off the Knights Templar
Screwing things up when they intervene yet hating when America does the same
That they have laws forcing 70% of whats on the radio during the daytime to be French.
I do however love the following about the French:
Women
Metric system
The variety of cheeses (I love cheese!!!)
Scimpy underwear for women
Participation in American Revolution
Fact that my ancestors come from France back when they were called Franks
Designing the FT-17 (First REAL tank)
eating frogs and snails is the bigest problem i say.
but i like the french.
They agrivate the english :)
william the conqueror wasnt always known by that name.
before he conquerd britain he was known as william the bastard.
you dont get a name like that cos every 1 likes you :)
Well France is my neighbour,
And I must say that over the last couple of centuries they didn’t really don anything to piss us off.
K, they invaded us a couple a times, but we kicked them out (Battle of golden spurs).
Actually it seems that everybody who came in war with France sooner ore later kicked it’s ass.
Even the Germans succeeded in this a couple of times.:laugh4:
Also I dislike the fact that you have to get a young teenage girl to win the war for you.
But then you have some mayor plusses like The French revolution.:2thumbsup:
And the mutual “hate” against the English, thus keeping Europe a little bit more interesting.