Unit lists/recruit guide...

Gertgregoor was recruiting people to help so I'm making a unit list/recruitment guide...don't know if its good...it's not completed....posting here to EB team comment it and see if they need some other things in this....

It's good??

Units List:

Camillian Romani: Used in year 272 to 209.

These units get out of use with the Polybian Reforms of 209.
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General Bodyguard:
Equites Consulares: Consuls, and other high Roman officials, are escorted by small mounted bodyguards. Most of these horsemen share a similar background and strong social ties with their general, and loyally fight with him as heavy cavalry. Magnificent, prestigious Greek armour is predominantly used by the Equites Consulares. Most of them wear shining bronze muscle cuirasses, Etrusco-Corinthian helmets, and greaves on both legs. Besides the traditional Roman round parma equestris shield they carry a hasta lance and swords as weapons.

Advantages: Powerful charge, excellent morale, excellent armor, good stamina, inspires nearby troops, best used in decisive moments of battle.

Disadvantages: Vulnerable to spearman units.

Buildings required: none
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Accensii:
They are the light missile reserve troops placed behind the Triarii and Rorarii in the legions battle formation. They are too poor to have any real equipment besides a sling, and in most cases too old or not experienced or skilled enough to use this effectively.
Advantages: good to harass enemies infantry, Can sap, move fast, good against javelins skirmishers.

Disadvantages: Poor armored, weak in melee.
*Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 1???
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Leves: The Leves are skirmishers armed with the gaesum, light javelins of Iberian style, a short thrusting spear and a small, but strong round shield. They wear no armour despite a helmet; they are the legions front line skirmishers, in a pitched battle they will screen the legions main battle line during the advance and harass the enemy, good used in protect flanks with the cavalry too, and easily crush elephant units.

Advantages: Good to harassment, fast movement, bonus vs. elephants, javelins very effective to kill elephants, effective harassing phalanx units.

Disadvantages: poor armored, will be crushed in melee combat with almost all other units.
*Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 1???
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Rorarii: Rorarii are reserve skirmishers armed with a hasta spear, javelins of the light Iberian gaesum type, and carry an early version of the scutum. They do not wear armour, but wear a helmet, are placed behind the Triarii in the legions battle formation. They can be used to fill gaps and support wavering lines but they can’t be expected to hold whole sections of the battle line by themselves.

Advantages: very mobile, good in protect rear and flank movements, good in flank movements too.

Disadvantages: poor armored, will be easily crushed by heavy infantry.
*Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 2???
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Hastati:
They are the youngest soldiers that wear a full panoply and form the first of the three lines of the battle formation of legionary heavy infantry. They are expected to weaken and tire the enemy, if they cannot break him, before the next line, the Principes, engages.

Advantages: throw javelins before charge, good morale, good stamina, can sap, pila very good to kill elephants, very mobile.

Disadvantages: Low armor.
*Can be recruited in: Roma/Latium, Capua/Campania, Arretium/Etruria, Ariminum/Umbria, Canusium/Apulia, Segesta/Liguria

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 3???
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Principes:
Spearman Roman unit, armed with two pila, the hasta thrusting spear, and an Italian short sword, Principes are protected by an early version of the scutum, a bronze helmet, a bronze greave on the leading leg and a small square chest plate, called pectorale, or "heart protector." As soon as the enemy comes in range they will throw their pilum to soften his formation and then engage at close quarters, older and more trained than the Hastati, are best used to kill enemies tired after fight the Hastati, but are powerful enough to match other heavy units.

Advantages: throw javelins before charge, very good morale, good stamina, can sap, pila very good to kill elephants, good mobility, bonus vs. cavalry.

Disadvantages: less heavy armored than other heavy units.
*Can be recruited in: Roma/Latium, Capua/Campania, Arretium/Etruria, Ariminum/Umbria, Canusium/Apulia, Segesta/Liguria.

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 3???
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Triarii:
Roman Spearman, they are the oldest and most experienced soldiers of a legion, and formed the third line of heavy infantry. Most often during battle they are kept in reserve, resting on one knee under cover of their shields to stay fresh and protected until they are needed. They are the rock of the legion, covering a "rearward advance" if the heavy infantry assault failed, and an old Roman adage came of their use: "to have come to the Triarii" meant that the situation was dire, indeed.
The early Triarii are equipped in full Greek panoply. They wear a muscled cuirass, a bronze greave on the leading leg, an Etrusco-Corinthian helmet; carry a Greek Clipeus shield, a hoplite sword, and the hasta thrusting spear, Fight Forming phalanx formation.

Advantages: Very well armored, very good morale, good stamina,? can sap?, very resistant to enemy attacks, bonus against cavalry, very good against elite units if not flanked.

Disadvantages: low mobility, very slow, flanks and rear vulnerably to cavalry charge, can be easily flanked by faster troops.
*Can be recruited in: Roma/Latium, Capua/Campania, Arretium/Etruria, Ariminum/Umbria, Canusium/Apulia, Segesta/Liguria


Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 4???
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Equites Romani: The equites are the roman citizen cavalry force. They are armed and armoured in Greek fashion with a hasta lance, a sword, a round parma equestris shield with a diameter of 50-80 cm, a crested helmet and wear a bronze muscle cuirass.
The equites were the members of the ordo equester and the sons of the families of the ordo senatorius, the two classes of the roman nobility, the wealthiest and most influential men. This proud horsemen were the future leading men of Roma. Their small numbers and the formidable opposition of other nations more professional cavalry often limited their effect on the battlefield, so that they were rarely used for other tasks than securing the flanks of the heavy infantry.

Advantages: good charge, good in pursuit running enemies, very good armoured, very good morale, very good stamina.


Disadvantages: weaker than some other cavalry units, vulnerable to spearman units.
Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 5???
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Polybian Romani: used in year: 209 to 107
These units get out of use with the Marian Reforms of 107.
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General Bodyguard:
Equites Consulares: Consuls, and other high Roman officials, are escorted by small mounted bodyguards. Most of these horsemen share a similar background and strong social ties with their general, and loyally fight with him as heavy cavalry. Magnificent, prestigious Greek armour is predominantly used by the Equites Consulares. Most of them wear shining bronze muscle cuirasses, Etrusco-Corinthian helmets, and greaves on both legs. Besides the traditional Roman round parma equestris shield they carry a hasta lance and swords as weapons.

Advantages: Powerful charge, excellent morale, excellent armor, good stamina, inspires nearby troops, best used in decisive moments of battle.

Disadvantages: Vulnerable to spear units.

Buildings required: none
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Accensi:
Are light missile reserve troops placed behind the Triarii and Rorarii in the legions battle formation. They are too poor to have any real equipment besides a sling, and in most cases too old or not experienced or skilled enough to use this effectively. It’s the only Early light roman infantry class preserved after Polybian reforms.
Advantages: good to kill enemies hold by infantry, Can sap, move fast, they don’t change after Polybian reforms.

Disadvantages: Poor armored, weak in melee.
*Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 1???
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Velites:
Are the legions light infantry. In a pitched battle they will screen the legions main battle line during the advance and harass the enemy before the heavy infantry engages. Sometimes they are also directly used to support the cavalry. The Velites are armed with javelins, a short sword and a small, but strong round shield. They wear no armour besides a plain helmet covered with an animal's skin (usually that of a wolf). This is mainly used for identification, and to make individuals recognizable to the centurions and tribunes over great distances.
Historically, the Velites were the men who were either too young to fight as Hastati or to poor to pay for equipment. They are all what had remained from the various Roman light infantry classes of the late 4th and early 3rd century BC, replacing the function of the Leves.
Advantages: Good to harassment, fast movement, bonus vs. elephants, javelins very effective to kill elephants.

Disadvantages: poor armored, will be crushed in melee combat with almost all other units.
*Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 2???
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Hastati: They are the youngest soldiers that wear a full panoply and form the first of the three lines in a legions battle formation. They are expected to weaken and tire the enemy if they cannot break him, before the next line of the Principes engages.
Armed with two pila and a gladius, Hastati are protected by a scutum, a bronze Montefortino helmet, a bronze greave on the leading leg and a mostly square chestplate, called pectorale or "heart protector." As soon as the enemy comes in range they will throw their pila to soften his formation and then engage at close quarters.
The high quality equipment has become one of the great strengths of the Roman infantry, besides their strict discipline. The scutum is an oval, canvas covered, plywood shield, around 1.2m high, that offers excellent protection against most weapons. The gladius hispaniensis, adapted during the late 3rd century BC conflicts, is a great weapon for fighting in close formations. Its strong, unbending blade has a sharp point to penetrate heavy armour and can deal an effective blow with both edges. So it can be used for stabbing or slashing as well. The pilum, the heavy Roman javelin, is designed to bend after impact so that it is worthless for the enemy and is difficult to remove from shields. Its weight also gives the weapon great penetration capability.

Advantages: throw javelins before charge, good morale, good stamina, can sap, pila very good to kill elephants, very mobile.

Disadvantages: less armoured than other heavy infantry units.
*Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 3???
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Principes: Are the soldiers in the prime of their life and form the second line in a legion's battle formation. They will engage if the Hastati were unable to break the enemy formations. Having large reserves of fresh troops available on the battlefield to engage in critical moments is one of the Roman army’s keys to success. Older and more trained than the Hastati, are best used to kill enemies tired after fight the Hastati, but are powerful enough to match other heavy units.
Armed with two pila and a gladius, the Principes are protected by a scutum, a bronze Montefortino helmet, a bronze greave on the leading leg and now mostly by a coat of lorica hamata (chain mail). As soon as the enemy comes in range they will throw their pila to soften his formation and then engage at close quarters. Older and more trained than the Hastati, are best used to kill enemies tired after fight the Hastati, but are powerful enough to match other heavy units.

The high quality equipment has become one of the great strengths of the Roman infantry, besides their strict discipline. The scutum is an oval, canvas covered, plywood shield, around 1.2m high, that offers excellent protection against most weapons. The gladius hispaniensis, adapted during the late 3rd century BC conflicts, is a great weapon for fighting in close formations. Its strong, unbending blade has a sharp point to penetrate heavy armour and can deal an effective blow with both edges. So it can be used for stabbing or slashing as well. The pilum, the heavy Roman javelin, is designed to bend after impact so that it is worthless for the enemy and is difficult to remove from shields. Its weight also gives the weapon great penetration capability.

Advantages: throw javelins before charge, very good morale, good stamina, can sap, pila very good to kill elephants, good mobility, good armoured.

Disadvantages: Not so good against cavalry as the Camillian Principes were, because of the lack of spears.
*Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 3???
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Triarii: Roman Spearman, They are the oldest and most experienced soldiers of the legion, forming its last reserve, the third line. Most often during battle they rest in reserve on one knee, under cover of their shields, to stay fresh and protected until they are needed. They are the rock of the legion, covering a "rearward advance" if the heavy infantry assault fails, and an old Roman adage came of their use: "to have come to the Triarii" meant that the situation was dire, indeed.
Armed with a hasta thrusting spear and a gladius, Triarii are protected by a scutum, a bronze Montefortino helmet, a bronze greave on the leading leg and now mostly by a coat of lorica hamata (chain mail). They continue to fight with long hasta spears in a close formation more suited to stop the enemy and stabilize the line if all hope rest on them, don’t use phalanx formation as the Camillian Triarii used.

Advantages: Very well armored, very good morale, good stamina,? can sap?, very resistant to enemy attacks, bonus against cavalry.

Disadvantages: don’t throw pilum before charge.
*Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 3???
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Equites Romani:
The equites are the roman citizen cavalry force. 300 of them, divided into ten turmae, are attached to each legion. They are equipped with a hasta lance, a sword, a round parma equestris shield with a diameter of 50-80 cm, thessalian helmets and wear lorica hamata (chain mail). Equites were the members of the ordo equester and the sons of the families of the ordo senatorius, the two classes of the roman nobility, the wealthiest and most influential men. The rise of Roma had brought both, an increasing number of wealthy and influential citizens and an increased need for more cavalry for the growing number of legions. Since the middle republic the ordo equester itself was divided between the 1800 equites equo publico, the original and true equites romani, which fought on mounts provided by the state and the less respected equites equo privato, who fought on their own horses. Proud horsemen were the future leading men of Roma. Their small numbers and the formidable opposition of other nations more professional cavalry often limited their effect on the battlefield, so that they were rarely used for other tasks than securing the flanks of the heavy infantry.

Advantages: good charge, good in pursuit running enemies, very good armoured, very good morale, very good stamina

Disadvantages: weaker than some other cavalry units, vulnerable to spearman units.
Can be recruited in: Roma, Capua, Arretium, Ariminum, Canusium, Segesta

Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government
??MIC level 5???
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Marian Romani:
These units get out of use with the Imperial reforms.
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Antesignani:
Besides the regions of Italy, that now have collectively gained citizenship, they can be recruited in all fully Romanized provinces of the Imperium Romanum, where great numbers of our citizens have now their home.
Antesignani are elite legionaries trained to fight outside the heavy infantry’s battle formation. Armed with spears, several light javelins, and a gladius they are more lightly armoured with a simple bronze breastplate instead of lorica hamata, an iron helmet, and carry smaller oval shields instead the heavy scuta to increase their agility. On march the duties of the Antesignani are to cover the columns as well as to scout and secure the area in front of the army. In a battle they can be used to screen the legions advance, to counter enemy skirmishers, or to support the cavalry if no specialised auxiliaries are available.
After the social war the former socii received Roman citizenship and were now recruited into the legions. However, the disappearance of the Velites and Pedites Extraordinarii reduced the legion's abilities and made it dependent upon external light infantry support. In the 1st century BC it became common to train some elite legionaries as Antesignani to fill this gap.

Advantages: ?????

Disadvantages: ?????
Can be recruited in: all full Romanized provinces
Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government or II-Provincia Romana, ??MIC level 4???
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Cohors Evocata:
Until very recently most veterans of the legions were settled down in Italia after their discharge. Here can be found if you need their service again.

A Cohors Evocata consist of former legionaries that have reenlisted again, forming now a veteran corps within the army. They are liberated from the many routine duties of a normal soldier and their weapons and armour are of high quality. Besides a an oval scutum, Evocati wear a suit of lorica hamata (chain mail), the new Imperial Gallic iron helmet and two greaves for protection and are fighting like normal legionaries with a gladius and pila.
Historically, the Evocati were a privileged group of former legionaries who volunteered to serve in the army again after being recalled by a general, sometimes years later. They were part of every important army and their number could reach several thousand if a famous and beloved former commander asked for his veterans. Evocati held a higher rank than the ordinary legionary and many of them even had their own horses. Often they were trusted with minor command duties and their chances for promotion to the rank of centurion were excellent. The problem of the late republic to find enough men who fulfilled the property requirements to serve as heavy infantry in the many and continuous wars the masters of the Mediterranean world now had to fight was one of the main reasons that reforms in the army had become inevitable. Earlier attempts to increase to the number of suitable small farmers through land reforms by the gracchi were blocked by senate, as many senators owned great latifundia now sprawling over Italy, by themselves. So all property requirements were given up and volunteers from all social classes were welcomed as well as the conscripts, while the state or their generals paid for their equipment. The senate had refused to bear the incalculable able costs for the veterans so that the generals had to take care of them. As a consequence a class of professional soldiers arose, men that had spent countless years in the field far away from urban civilization and the senate in Roma. With no qualifications other than martial skills, some of them remained soldiers their whole lives and reenlisted as evocati after their regular service. The loyalty of these men shifted more and more to their generals, preparing the ground for many bloody civil wars of the 1st century BC.

Advantages: ????

Disadvantages: ????
Can be recruited in: all full Romanized provinces
Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government or II-Provincia Romana, ??MIC level 4???
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Cohors Reformata:

Besides the regions of Italy, that now have collectively gained citizenship, they can be recruited in all fully Romanized provinces of the Imperium Romanum, where great numbers of our citizens have now their home.

Roman legionaries are now uniformly equipped with two pila, a gladius, and an elliptical scutum around 1.28m high. Their main armour still remains a coat of lorica hamata (chain mail) and a Montefortino-type helmet. The high quality of the legions equipment has become one of the great strengths of the Roman infantry, besides their strict discipline. In battle they will throw their pila as soon as the enemy comes in range to soften his formation and then engage at close quarters.

Historically, the organization of the legion changed at the beginning of the 1st century BC and all but the heavy infantry disappeared. The Hastati, Principes and Triarii were now all equipped in the same manner and only their names remained. Three of their maniples, each increased in size to 160 men, now formed one cohort, the new main tactical unit of the Roman infantry, besides the now 80 men strong centuria. However, in most times the late republican legions did not reach their theoretical strength, and around 400 men per cohort were far more common. These changes offered much more tactical flexibility to the legion. Instead of being limited to a three line battle formation, the soldiers could be positioned as easily in one, two, or even more lines. A cohort was big enough to operate separated from the main army, to perform smaller tasks independently.

Advantages: ????

Disadvantages: ????
Can be recruited in: all full Romanized provinces
Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government or II-Provincia Romana
??MIC level 3???
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Catapulta:
A Catapulta (sometimes called a ballista) is a sinew-powered weapon that looks like an enormous crossbow. It has tremendous range and can skewer files of men with a single bolt!

While a Catapulta might look like a huge crossbow, its working principles are rather different. The two arms are pushed through ropes made of tough animal sinew. This naturally elastic material is then twisted, and becomes a hugely powerful spring, pulling each arm forwards. The arms are pulled back, creating even more tension, the Catapulta is loaded with a missile, and then this is shot at the enemy with considerable force.

Providing care is taken to make sure that the two sinew bundles are under the same tension, the Catapulta is a very accurate weapon, but because sinew is sensitive to damp a Catapulta does not work well in wet weather.

Advantages: ????

Disadvantages: inefficient in wet weather, vulnerable to melee fight.
Can be recruited in: all full Romanized provinces
Buildings required: I-Regional Italian Government-Homeland Government or II-Provincia Romana, Ludus Magna

Definitely a good idea, well worth exploring. I suppose this could be included in the game manual/strategy guide.

i'll continue it...now i'm ending the romans descriptions...next will be celtic barbarians I think...

It looks good. I would suggest changing the word "vantages" to "advantages".

The stats are actually more important (charge damage, shield defence bonus etc), and like tk-421 said, it's advantages.

It's a good guide to the Romans. I think the early Principes are spearmen, so a bonus against cavalry should be added to their list of advantages. Conversely, I guess a possible disdvantage of the late Principes is that they now lack spears. But in EB, I'm not sure you'd want to charge Principes with cavalry.

On the accensi, I think they are rather good against javelin-armed skirmishers (they out-range them) and also decent against cavalry. There may be a difference between their historical status (described as "poor") and their in-game utility (I love em).

The levees benefit from a large unit size. It makes them surprisingly robust - they can take a beating and still be useful. They are very handy against phalanxes (can't be caught and can maneouvre round the flanks); less required against barbarians. Like the accensi, they are vulnerable to cavalry (can't skirmish move out of trouble quickly enough to avoid the charge).

Is there really a difference in mobility between hastati and principes? I've not noticed one. That hastati just seem inferior to principes due to the lesser armour. They are cheaper, but arguably not enough to matter. If they do have a faster speed, then that might give them a slightly different role.

You probably want to stress the difference between the early and late triarii. The former is a phalanx unit, with all that entails. The latter is just a spearmen unit. The phalanx is rather slow for the Roman battle tactics, but good against elite infantry (e.g. pinning gestatae). Unless flanked, most non-phalanx infantry just can't hurt them. By contrast, I find them too slow to be much use against cavalry (they can't catch them). By contrast, spearmen's raison d'etre is to fight cavalry. (They probably have a hardcoded disadvantage vs swords). Apparently early triarii will be nerfed, but right now they are gods.

The recruitment guide is good. Bravo Maximianus. ~:)

Perhaps you could add "they" at the start of every unit description?

Looks good, keep on it.

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

The stats are actually more important (charge damage, shield defence bonus etc), and like tk-421 said, it's advantages.

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...corrected:book:...I think stats is not really nessessary 'cause in game people could see it just clicking in unit card,what you think?

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Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

Perhaps you could add "they" at the start of every unit description?

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You mean in the unit cards in the game?

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Originally Posted by econ21

It's a good guide to the Romans. I think the early Principes are spearmen, so a bonus against cavalry should be added to their list of advantages. Conversely, I guess a possible disdvantage of the late Principes is that they now lack spears. But in EB, I'm not sure you'd want to charge Principes with cavalry.

On the accensi, I think they are rather good against javelin-armed skirmishers (they out-range them) and also decent against cavalry. There may be a difference between their historical status (described as "poor") and their in-game utility (I love em).

The levees benefit from a large unit size. It makes them surprisingly robust - they can take a beating and still be useful. They are very handy against phalanxes (can't be caught and can maneouvre round the flanks); less required against barbarians. Like the accensi, they are vulnerable to cavalry (can't skirmish move out of trouble quickly enough to avoid the charge).

Is there really a difference in mobility between hastati and principes? I've not noticed one. That hastati just seem inferior to principes due to the lesser armour. They are cheaper, but arguably not enough to matter. If they do have a faster speed, then that might give them a slightly different role.

You probably want to stress the difference between the early and late triarii. The former is a phalanx unit, with all that entails. The latter is just a spearmen unit. The phalanx is rather slow for the Roman battle tactics, but good against elite infantry (e.g. pinning gestatae). Unless flanked, most non-phalanx infantry just can't hurt them. By contrast, I find them too slow to be much use against cavalry (they can't catch them). By contrast, spearmen's raison d'etre is to fight cavalry. (They probably have a hardcoded disadvantage vs swords). Apparently early triarii will be nerfed, but right now they are gods.

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you correct about the early principes...
it's not really a disadvantage of the late principes they don't have spear, is just a change in style, but i'll put there that they're not so effective vs. cavalry as the early principes...
I'll put accensi good vs. javeliners...but not vs. cavalry 'cause they can be destroyed fast by a charge...
The leves i'll put as effective harassing phalanx units...
I think hastati is faster, I'll check it when have time...
I'll update the triarii descriptions...
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I put the advantages fix...
and will make these changes and update it...
soon the marian romans will be ended...

thanks you all for the help!:2thumbsup:

actualized now...give a look...:book:

I mean: "They are the youngest soldiers...."

That's what I meant. Looks better now. :book:

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Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

I mean: "They are the youngest soldiers...."

That's what I meant. Looks better now. :book:

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good idea:idea2:

updated...sorry by the late, school exams...:sweatdrop:
It's greatly incomplete but i'll complete it when have some time...

Looks better now. Good job. :2thumbsup:

Are you gonna add stats to it too?

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Originally Posted by stalin

Are you gonna add stats to it too?

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don't resolved it yet...I think it's not priority cause the game have it on unit card...what you think?


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anyone here played as celtic and presencied Neitos reforms????...if yes what units it add??

anyone seen neitos reforms?:help: