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Cindy Sheehan: "Canada out of Afghanistan!"
Yup, the ole coot is at it again.
Looks like she's saying more ridiculous things in the hope she'll get some press time: Globe and Mail Story
Some fun bits:
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Canadian soldiers have no business being in Afghanistan and their presence there merely enables the United States to carry on its "illegal and immoral" war in Iraq, prominent U.S. anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan said yesterday.
"I believe my country shouldn't be in Afghanistan anyway," Ms. Sheehan said at a news conference on Parliament Hill. "It's never about spreading freedom or democracy or making the world safe, it's about lining the war profiteers' pockets."
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Ms. Sheehan also fired broadsides at the UN-backed international mission in Afghanistan.
"My country supported Osama bin Laden in the fight against Russia," she said.
Translation: I am a cretin.
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"And now they go in and tear down that country. It's back in the hands of the drug lords, it's producing more opium than ever, and it's not safe. There's not any rebuilding going on, because it's being occupied by occupying forces."
So...its in the hands of the Taliban, but no rebuilding is going on because of 'occupying forces' who occupy the country? Which one is it?
They also encourage our volunteer soldiers to desert:
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The activists conceded that current war resisters are different from those in the Vietnam era because they volunteered to serve, rather than being drafted.
However, Ms. Sheehan said, the soldiers are within their rights to desert because many are "lied to" by U.S. military recruiters who tell them they won't have to fight in Iraq. "My son was an honourable, honest person lied to by his recruiter," she said.
If I recall correctly, her son signed up for another tour after completing his first one.
Crazed Rabbit
P.S. Yes, I admit Mrs. Sheehan is an all too convenient (and becoming more so) whacking post for conservatives. But hey, what else do we do in here? :2thumbsup:
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Maybe if we all stop caring about what she says, it won't matter. Just a thought. You are only spreading this, can you imagine if we cared and gave press time to every person in the US that was against or for the war? :dizzy2:
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i agree with the prince and have to ask, who the hell gave her press time in the first place.
anyway her son probably joined the army to get away from her, she just comes off as a domineering and control freak bitch to me.
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Originally Posted by master of the puppets
i agree with the prince and have to ask, who the hell gave her press time in the first place.
Well when she was the "sympathetic" anti war/bush mom the media and dems did. Now that she has made a fool of herself they are unable to shut her up. She is an embarassment that they themselves created and is now doing them damage.
I think the line that did it for me was during Katrina when she called for the guard to "pull out" of New Orleans and end the occupation there.:juggle2:
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(Now, now. We don't need to hear that - Beirut)
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Oh goody. I thought the press finally stopped covering her. I think they should air her views all of the time.
My favorite line wwas when she apologized to the Venezuelan president in Venezuela at some anti-America rally for American imperialism.
I'm sure her son would be proud.
She is no whacking post, IMO. Instead, I see her as a nut who helps the conservative cause. I think she might secretly be on the RNC payroll. :laugh4:
I like how the media first portrayed this as Bush's refusal to speak with her, rather than Bush's refusal to speak with her again. (He met with her once shortly after the death of her son, remember?) The media conveniently forgets to include that part.
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So...its in the hands of the Taliban, but no rebuilding is going on because of 'occupying forces' who occupy the country? Which one is it?
Err... the Taliban weren't drug lords. Murderers, oppressors and islamofascist maniacs yes, but not drug lords. In fact, they were the only one who managed to effectively fight drug production in Afghanistan. But other than that, yes the woman is a shame.
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Nah, she is not a whacko. She is quite rational: her son died in war, the reasons for going to war were questionable, so she has an axe to grind with those responsible.
So far so good. She is overplaying her hand, and damaging her case, with Chavez, Katrina and now Afghanistan though.
The scale of 9/11 and the closesness of AQ and the Taliban made it nothing short of an open declaration of war by the Taliban against America. Arguments that the Taliban and OBL were previously supported by America, or that support for the war in Afghanistan enables the war in Iraq, whether true or false, fade to insignificance in that light.
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Didn't someone shoot her yet?
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Nah, she is not a whacko. She is quite rational: her son died in war, the reasons for going to war were questionable, so she has an axe to grind with those responsible.
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Understandable, IF her son did not volunteer for military service. No one forced him to pick up that rifle...
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Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?
One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?
I do wish she wouldn't bring up her son every time though. She can not indefinitely, on each and every subject, claim to be his spokeswoman. Ironically, that would, after his physical death, mean the demise of him as an independent personality too. This also hints at what you rightfully pointed out too.
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Didn't someone shoot her yet?
No, because she lives in America, where people are free to voice their opinion with respect for their life and liberty. Deal with it or move to North Korea.
America, love it or leave it and all that. :balloon2:
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?
One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?
When you join the military, you do not get to chose which wars you want to fight in and which ones you don't. That isn't an option. Her son knew full well that he was at the wim of his Commander and Cheif to be sent where ever he thought necessary.
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Aye, but what war did her son volunteer to? A war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?
One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled?
I do wish she wouldn't bring up her son every time though. She can not indefinitely, on each and every subject, claim to be his spokeswoman. Ironically, that would, after his physical death, mean the demise of him as an independent personality too. This also hints at what you rightfully pointed out too.
No, because she lives in America, where people are free to voice their opinion with respect for their life and liberty. Deal with it or move to North Korea.
America, love it or leave it and all that. :balloon2:
But her opinion is treasonous. God, where's McCarthy when you need him?
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Yup, the ole coot is at it again.
Looks like she's saying more ridiculous things in the hope she'll get some press time:
Globe and Mail Story
Some fun bits:
Translation: I am a cretin.
So...its in the hands of the Taliban, but no rebuilding is going on because of 'occupying forces' who occupy the country? Which one is it?
They also encourage our volunteer soldiers to desert:
If I recall correctly, her son signed up for another tour after completing his first one.
Crazed Rabbit
P.S. Yes, I admit Mrs. Sheehan is an all too convenient (and becoming more so) whacking post for conservatives. But hey, what else do we do in here? :2thumbsup:
She is a Embrassment to Our Country and to the US Troops,No Questios Asked,Period.
I aslo Agree with Ice.
when you join the Navy,Army,or ay branch of the Mitalry of any Country,you wil lDefend your Country in Peace or War.
For Example
I might want to joni the Army one day.ok. if say,by then,Russia and China USA go to war in a big 3 Way War.I can't pick if I want to be in the War or not. I would Defend my Country,if I died or not.
I swear she should go to Iraq,mabye that should shut her up..
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Originally Posted by Ice
When you join the military, you do not get to chose which wars you want to fight in and which ones you don't.
Indeed, therefore those who send them must use utmost caution, deliberation and their best conscience when commiting them to war. The obligation is mutual.
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Indeed, therefore those who send them must use utmost caution, deliberation and their best conscience when commiting them to war. The obligation is mutual.
Yes, but the mother of a deceased soldier does not to get to use her son's death as an excuse to nag, nag, and NAG. He was there volunterily, end of story.
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Aye, but why did he volunteer? To fight a war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or to fight a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?
One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?
Meh, we're going round in circles, aren't we? :balloon2:
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Aye, but why did he volunteer? To fight a war fought to preserve American lives in the face of imminent danger by WMD? Or to fight a war that was started for ulterior reasons and sold on false grounds?
One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?
Meh, we're going round in circles, aren't we? :balloon2:
Yes. It doesn't matter why he joined, the bottem line is he joined. He is a soldier who voluntered in the United States Army. He knew the consquences of his action, he was a big boy.
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
One's appreciation of miss Sheehan's cause depends a good deal on those questions. Was her son misled when he voluntered?
I think this is were my belief that he not only volunteered, but reenlisted, comes into play. Even assuming he was misled the first time, he certainly knew what was happening the second time.
Crazed Rabbit
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She initially had a valid protest, but she has long since lost any creditablity.
I wonder if her handler's have washed their hands of her?
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Who is Cindy Sheehan? Isnt she American? What does Canada have to do with her son dieing? Why do I keep asking questions? Opiums not that bad is it? Why cant we all just get along?
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I believe he was on his second tour to Iraq, VOLUNTARILY...
What's wrong with saying "*********" Tree Chopper, I've read worst written by mods in the Backroom.
(If you don't like it, take it up in the Watchtower or appeal it to SG. For now however... - Beirut)
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Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
I believe he was on his second tour to Iraq, VOLUNTARILY...
What's wrong with saying "**********" Tree Chopper, I've read worst written by mods in the Backroom.
Maybe he was thinking about asking her out for a wood chopping experience while she was up in Canada......:oops:
(Qouted language - Beirut)
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Originally Posted by Redleg
Maybe he was thinking about asking her out for a wood chopping experience while she was up in Canada......:oops:
I don't think she's the lumberjack type. I'd invision her to be the "chain myself to a tree" type. But if she did, Beirut could do us all a favor and, well you know...:laugh4:
BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! THWACK!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!! Timber!!!
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Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
I believe he was on his second tour to Iraq, VOLUNTARILY...
What's wrong with saying "*********" Tree Chopper, I've read worst written by mods in the Backroom.
(If you don't like it, take it up in the Watchtower or appeal it to SG. For now however... - Beirut)
Golly gee willikers Wally you're quick. I hope you don't make love this fast, Mrs Sheehan's gonna be very disappointed!!!:laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
Oh goody. I thought the press finally stopped covering her.
Your media did. That link is from the Globe and Mail's website. The G'n'B being one of Canada's 2 national newspapers. It's the one that's not a joke/Tory rag.
Anyway, one thing I've always wondered is how did she feel about her son joining the army period? If you just take the way she reacted to her son being killed it gives the impression that she never wanted him in a uniform to begin with.
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I've got a question why does Canada care what Cindy Sheehan has to say? And on her son He joined the army cause he wanted too not because he was forced. And going into a war is a chance he took and it just so happened that he was thrown into a war zone and was killed. This ladie probably just wants something to bitch about.
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Originally Posted by Csar
I've got a question why does Canada care what Cindy Sheehan has to say?
She called a press conference to tell us to get out of Afghanistan, on parliment hill. That was gonig to get coverage no matter what. Whether we care or not remains to be seen.
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Originally Posted by Csar
And on her son He joined the army cause he wanted too not because he was forced. And going into a war is a chance he took and it just so happened that he was thrown into a war zone and was killed. This ladie probably just wants something to bitch about.
That's not what I asked. What SHE though about her son joining the army PERIOD? That's what I asked.
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I sure she didnt want him too. Thats pretty obvious.
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Louis I love ya but saying he didnt know what he was getting into was a lie its like becoming a doctor and surprised when you see a cancer patient you know it could happen. Wether the goverment starts a war or not you join the milatary to fight wether it be in Carters adminastration or Bushes. The boy was old enough to know what he was doing and he renlisted. Sheenan has gone from a mother with misplaced grief to a tool in the crap factory known as poltics