Japan wins key vote to reintroduce commercial whaling

Through bribing small countries with no history of whaling, the Japanese have managed to win a vote at the IWC to begin the process of returning to commercial whaling.

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Many whales are still significantly threatened with extinction. The whaling process is one fo the cruellest hunting methods with animals often taking over thirty minutes to die - usually of asphyxiation. These are animals with a high level of intelligence.

Japan's consumption of whale meat during the so-called 'scientific whaling' period of the last twenty years has diminished greatly. Stubbornly, they continue to kill whales even though the meat lies rotting and unconsumed by their markets.

The countries that have been found out in taking bribes are now producing the age old whine that the US, UK and Australia are being imperialist by threatening tourism boycotts. (Of course, Japan has never been an imperialist country like Australia :dizzy2: )

There's long way to go before commercial whaling returns, but now is the time to make your feelings known (assuming you abhor such hunting) to your political representative and to the consulates of the countries supporting whaling. We thought we had won this battle many years ago, one of the few great conservation successes.

Back, I'm afraid, to the fight.

Well its for science, it must be good!

I think the Japanese must be using the Creationist Guide to Science.

Meh, if they want to hunt whales they should do it like they did in the 19th century: sail boats and dingies. Well, maybe no sailboats with no refrigeration, but they should have to go after them in those little boats and those harpoons they have to plunge into the whales, none of these warhead harps. It would be sustainable, which the Japanese say they want.

If most of the meat rots, then why are the Japanese in favor of it? Must be subsidizing the whaling industry......

The Norwegians kill far,far more whales each year than the japanese. I'm not sure about how threatened the popualtion is, I assume the limits are there for a reason, besides saying 'it's cruel !'.

BTW have you seen how they hunt and slaughter dolphins ? That's pretty sickening, after all, they are reasonably intelligent animals...

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Its strange, two of the countries and cultures that I would normally consider EXTREMELY civilised, Japan and Norway, are engaged in this barbaric custom.

I think a bit of Greenpeace activism is in needed.

Well, both have traditions as seafaring and sea-reliant nations; it's not surprising that they ate whales, or used whales, or hunted whales a lot.

But now? Com'on! Japan isn't going to suffer an economic depression if the whale industry falls apart! Who cares? We have far better advancements to replace the stinking whale oil nowadays. For the Japanese, it must be the old government-industrial complex; the technocracy of Japan. I'm not sure about Norway though. Why?

And that "race, colonial, omg!" by the Caribbean groups. That's lame. Really lame.

From what I see it's going to be hard for the next step back to Moby Dick, though. It's unlikely that any more nations will be bribed into agreeing so easily.

Only an ignorant, inhuman, blistering idiot would kill this magnificient creature for food.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...sass/whale.jpg

Amen.

Yeah, stupid for two reasons. Even if we'd ignore the cruel method of hunt, there's still enough arguments against whale hunts from a cold rational economical perspective - hunting whales now will make them extinct quickly and make it impossible for those species to recover, making for a very short period when whale hunting is possible. If they are left to recover, there'll be a chance of the species increasing it's population count, making it economically possible to hunt them. Since the pain aspect doesn't bother those voting yes to it, it's interesting to notice that even when looking strictly economically at it there's little supporting the decision. Only people wanting to make a quick short-term profit as temporary leaders of the companies doing it would benefit from it.

Yup, this morning's news made me pretty angry... the reason given that the whales are 'eating all the fish', so they have to be hunted. Like the massive factory-trawlers have had no impact, or the huge pirate fishing fleets (some with Caribbean FoCs), or nations flouting quotas, or the dumping of ex-quota 'by-catch'.

IMHO only Inuit have any valid claim to hunt whales as a subsistence activity, and they're never going to impact on the whale population.

Luckily the IWC still needs a 2/3 majority to overturn the moratorium, so nothing is going to change in the short term. Still, it might well be the time to dust off the old waterproofs....

This is unbelievable. I cannot understand how these countries can possibly justify the killing of animals of this intelligence and small population. I'm very saddened by this news.:no:

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Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

This is unbelievable. I cannot understand how these countries can possibly justify the killing of animals of this intelligence and small population. I'm very saddened by this news.

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That tastes somehow like a hipocresy... it's ok, if you believe it... :shrug:

I was always against this mindless hunt, and Japan has being doing it for a very long time near the coast of the argentinian south... well I suppose you cannot fight the rising of the tide, when some great country is stubbornly fixed on this kind of actitude there's little we can do... not everything is justified by profit.

Whale is very tasty if cooked correctly... :2thumbsup:

I hope America will come to the defense of Japan against its upcoming war against eco-terrorism.

hmmm... Whay am I not very suprised by the fact that PannzerJager is all for whaling...?:dizzy2:

I find it ironic Japan claims whaling is in its heritage.

Now, I'm no expert on Japanese Naval history, but, pre-1853, were they not isolationist, with what ships they had staying close to shore? I.e., they did not even have the long range ships of New England capable of ranging across the globe, much less the factories with hulls around today.

Whale hunting is not necessary anymore for any resource, and threatens to wipe out some of the most majestic creatures on earth.

If it's in your heritage, then hunt them as your ancestors did.

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I hope America will come to the defense of Japan against its upcoming war against eco-terrorism.

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The whales are attacking Japanese container ships? :inquisitive:

Crazed Rabbit

Nothing wrong with hunting whales for food...

Be sure to regulate it, make the kill painless and instantenous, and help the whale community survive; but really, we kill cows for food...

Also, I take the Navaros stance on animal testing... :rtwno:

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Nothing wrong with hunting whales for food...

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I hope we can change your opinion. :bow:

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Nothing wrong with hunting whales for food...

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Generally I'd agree, but when an species is close to extintion, I say no. There's something wrong with that. Besides as someone said above the food is rotting in the storage.

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

make the kill painless and instantenous

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Because that's really possible at the moment. Please come back when you wake up to the reality of how whaling occurs.

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Originally Posted by Beirut

Only an ignorant, inhuman, blistering idiot would kill this magnificient creature for food.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...sass/whale.jpg

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2 things I think that "creature" is nothing but a worthless fish thats bigger and uglier then usual. (the only good fish is the one on my plate)

Secondly. Who cares about it? really it's a fish no different then a blue gill for crying out loud! Just like deer are like giant rats to me.

Are the people against this against paid hunts? Next are you going to say I can't pay 500 dollars to chase a boar around on a 20 acre ranch and shoot it? (perfectly legal mind you:2thumbsup: )




And how is a mod able to say something like that?


If I said every A-rab is another johnny jihad.....I'b be lynched by you lot.

1) The manly boar hunters I saw as a kid hunted tuskers with a knife.

2) A whale is a mammal not a fish, next you will be claiming boars are a kind of land shark.

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1) The manly boar hunters I saw as a kid hunted tuskers with a knife.

2) A whale is a mammal not a fish, next you will be claiming boars are a kind of land shark.

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If it looks like a fish it's a fish in my eyes. (and you may say Whales don't look like fish, but I'm talking about my eyes~;) )

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Whale is very tasty if cooked correctly... :2thumbsup:

I hope America will come to the defense of Japan against its upcoming war against eco-terrorism.

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Wow, I really didn't expect Beiruts point to be proven so quickly :dizzy2:

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Wow, I really didn't expect Beiruts point to be proven so quickly :dizzy2:

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Come on! our ancestors did not climb to the top of the food chain so we could eat leaves.

Ceasar, there's no need to kill whales. Not just vegans support not killing them. The thing is, they were almost wiped off the face of the earth- these huge, majestic creatures that have no equal, perhaps in the universe- by overhunting.

There's plenty of tasty animals that aren't in such danger, and we aren't talking about banning normal hunting or anything like that.

Crazed Rabbit

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Originally Posted by ceasar010

Come on! our ancestors did not climb to the top of the food chain so we could eat leaves.

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And that's why we don't hunt whales to extinction. :book:

Instead of whale-slaughtering, maybe they would prefear legalize cannibalism. After all some cultures practiced it a long time ago and human flesh is tasty if cooked properly.It's nothing more than a mammal. Just being as cynical as ceasar010 is.
After whales/sharks/dolphins are extinct, maybe bored gourmets would start thinking about cannibalism. The world has gone insane. Glad there's an ice age coming to chill out the atmosphere.

ceasar010, I agree with about 99% of your posts, but I believe you are dead wrong on this one. I'm hoping you're being arguementative just for the sake of ruffling feathers, but please do some research on whales and their incredible existence before preclaiming them as nothing more than a mere "fish". :2thumbsup:

http://www.wdcs.org/dan/publishing.n...2568F90032E5BD

http://www.barharborwhales.com/educational.htm

I personally have got no problem with eating whale meat, but not regulating the hunting properly is idiocy on the scale that only humans can manage.

For those saying it is a travesty to eat whales, I take it you're all vegetarians or vegans?

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If it looks like a fish it's a fish in my eyes. (and you may say Whales don't look like fish, but I'm talking about my eyes )

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Well done C, most people aren't that proud of their own ignorance, either that or you need to go to Specsavers. :help:

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