Indians to the Alexander campaign

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06-21-2006, 21:39
The Blind King of Bohemia

Indians to the Alexander campaign

Well I was messing around and I achieved this, though it still needs a lot of work (Buildings, Egyptian portraits). Just thought people might want confirmation of this. I'll probably change the culture to eastern

https://img525.imageshack.us/img525/44/india0pu.jpg
06-21-2006, 22:15
Barbarossa82

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

Good work! If those campaign map figures were already in the game, then that strongly implies that India was intended to be present on the campaign map at some stage, and then dropped. I wonder why?
06-21-2006, 22:17
Silver Rusher

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

Hang on, weren't the Indians already included in the game?
06-21-2006, 22:19
The Blind King of Bohemia

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

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Originally Posted by Silver Rusher

Hang on, weren't the Indians already included in the game?

In custom battle and at Hydaspes but apart from that mate they didn't make the campaign
06-21-2006, 22:22
Silver Rusher

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

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Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia

In custom battle and at Hydaspes but apart from that mate they didn't make the campaign

Well in that case, brilliant work BKB!
06-22-2006, 03:52
Mooks

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

Think they rushed the game? I cant think of a reason why they would but its possible.
06-22-2006, 11:06
Husar

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

Why is the newest, most exotic and ahem, coolest faction not on the standard campaign map??? When buying Alexander I was looking forward to playing an Indian campaign, luckily I didn´t buy it yet.:furious3:

Well, if you could make a nice, small mod just to make them playable, I will reconsider buying it.:2thumbsup:
But I fear it means no Indian-style buildings, right?
06-22-2006, 11:25
Mr Frost

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

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Originally Posted by Husar

...But I fear it means no Indian-style buildings, right?

What , like a 7-11 or a Quickiemart ?
06-23-2006, 08:18
Mooks

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Originally Posted by Mr Frost

What , like a 7-11 or a Quickiemart ?

BWAHAHAH. You have to whatch the simpsons to understand that.
06-23-2006, 08:41
Mount Suribachi

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

Isn't Apu from Sri Lanka?
06-23-2006, 09:54
Bartix

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Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

Isn't Apu from Sri Lanka?

Very complicated matter:

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Originally Posted by wikipedia

He and his family are devotees of the Hindu gods Shiva, Ganesha, and Vishnu. [] In addition to being Brahmins, Apu and Manjula appear to be Tamil because of their first names and especially dark complexions; however, Apu has also been shown to be Bengali, which would be consistent with the title of Apu's sketch in the episode "22 Short Films About Springfield", "The Jolly Bengali". However, in one episode, Manjula speaks Hindi (interpreted as "baby talk" by Marge), to Maggie, as opposed to Tamil or Bengali, further complicating the matter. Still, Apu's parents in the episodes "Much Apu About Nothing" and "The Two Mrs. Nahasapeemapetilons" very strongly appear to be Tamil. The episode "Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore" features a relative of Apu, Kavi, who lives in Bangalore, which is part of Karnataka, South India; this would suggest that they are actually Kannadigas. [] He graduated first in his class of seven million at 'Caltech'—the Calcutta Institute of Technology
06-23-2006, 09:55
Drusus Magnus

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

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Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

Isn't Apu from Sri Lanka?

No, he's the stereotypical South Asian convenient store owner. Some episodes indicate that he's from Nepal while others clearly state him to be Indian. It could be that some episodes say he's from Sri Lanka. It's like Ned Flanders' age, which is sometimes 60, sometimes 40.
06-23-2006, 21:00
Avicenna

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

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Originally Posted by Drusus Magnus

No, he's the stereotypical South Asian convenient store owner. Some episodes indicate that he's from Nepal while others clearly state him to be Indian. It could be that some episodes say he's from Sri Lanka. It's like Ned Flanders' age, which is sometimes 60, sometimes 40.

The whole fluctuating age things makes him sound like a woman covering her age to me.

:juggle2:
06-23-2006, 22:11
snevets

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Not that this discussion has anything to do with this topic but you can't tell any kind of race based on techy relatives in bangalore, its the tech center of India, so its completely logical for him to live there. As for speaking Hindi, Hindi is supposed to be the number one language, and although many tamils don't speak Hindi everyone in Bangalore has to in order to communicate.
06-24-2006, 02:23
Mooks

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India has over 100 languages :skull:
06-24-2006, 16:09
edyzmedieval

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And all of them sound weird. :skull:

BUt back to topic, good job BKB. :thumbsup:
06-25-2006, 00:48
Slug For A Butt

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

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Originally Posted by holybandit

BWAHAHAH. You have to whatch the simpsons to understand that.

Trust me, if you live in England you don't have to watch the Simpsons to get that. It's the bete noir we aren't allowed to speak of.:furious3:
06-26-2006, 02:54
Mooks

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

I want to go to England one of these years. I remember the simpsons trip to england.

*arrives at a hotel and goes to the front desk*

"Something something something...We saved your asses during vietnam, I demand a free room!"
06-26-2006, 10:18
Kralizec

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

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beta (plural: betas)
1. The second letter in the Greek alphabet; β.
2. The state of a game at the time of release by Creative Assembly.

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06-26-2006, 10:31
econ21

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

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Originally Posted by Kralizec

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beta (plural: betas)
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2. The state of a game at the time of release by Creative Assembly.

That's a bit harsh. CA games are remarkably stable and polished, IMO. (Try playing some betas of mods and see what a real beta is - CTDs and all.) The fact that modders can add substantive content to TW games is a major positive feature of the game series, not a negative.
06-26-2006, 11:12
Kralizec

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

That's true, and to give CA credit, most of the bugs that players describe as "game crippling" in various versions of RTW didn't bother me that much actually, and overall I enjoyed playing RTW and its excellent mods.

However there's a difference between making a game moddable so that modders can make adjustments to suit personal preferences, and rushing out a game through the publisher so that it's up to modders to add features that SHOULD have been part of the original game.

I can't think of a single good reason not to put the Indians in the campaign. Can you? Because I'd be glad to hear it.
Hence my caricature of the game as a paid beta, rushed out so that it's up to modders to make the game as it should have been.
06-26-2006, 12:22
econ21

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Originally Posted by Kralizec

I can't think of a single good reason not to put the Indians in the campaign. Can you?

No, I can't and it is a big shame. It would have been a really good denouement to the campaign.
06-26-2006, 13:43
Roy1991

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Originally Posted by Kralizec

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beta (plural: betas)
1. The second letter in the Greek alphabet; β.
2. The state of a game at the time of release by Creative Assembly.

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You should be happy EA didn't make RTW.
06-27-2006, 16:26
The Blind King of Bohemia

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

I have now released this mod for those interested:

BKB Alexander Mini Mod Thread
06-28-2006, 23:50
player1

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

I think it was an AI issue.
They were unable to stop Persians from conquering them quickly.
07-06-2006, 11:27
symball

Re: Indians to the Alexander campaign

they should have given them more elephants :)

actually I think this is always going to be a problem until we get a worldwide map- there is always going to be a culture or empire that is under represented by the arbitary limits of the map you use- parthia anyone?