American in al-Qaeda

Don't know if this is news to anybody, but I've just heard about it:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13842265/

What are everyone's views on the fact that an American is calling for America's destruction?

EDIT: whoops, pressed 'v' one time too many.

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Censorship! It's a conspiracy!



But more seriously, isn't the reason American citizens have the right to bear arms in the constitution specifically so they can overthrow an unjust government?

That's treason when we capture him we should kill him, It's not going to happen though.


Protesting while yelling !@#$ america and such, is disgusting but not treason.....joining those who want to convert or kill is treason plain and simple.



The bleeding hearts out their will say "he was a misguided impressionable little boy.....don't kill the man that wants to convert us or chop our heads........he means well! Lets give him a hug!"

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Don't know if this is news to anybody, but I've just heard about it:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13842265/

What are everyone's views on the fact that an American is calling for America's destruction?

EDIT: whoops, pressed 'v' one time too many.

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My view is: so what ? We can have crazy people too.

Hes no american, might have been born in american but i sure as hell would not dare call him American, its like calling the 7/7 bombers 'British', they were not British at all

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Originally Posted by King Ragnar

Hes no american, might have been born in american but i sure as hell would not dare call him American, its like calling the 7/7 bombers 'British', they were not British at all

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I already had some difficulties following your logic for British people - but this is really interesting.
How would you define "American"?

Someone of European disent, obviously not a muslim.

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Originally Posted by King Ragnar

Someone of European disent, obviously not a muslim.

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Why?

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Originally Posted by King Ragnar

Someone of European disent, obviously not a muslim.

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Great, some Ragnar baiting. :grin:

OK, so all the African-Americans aren't American? :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

Great, some Ragnar baiting. :grin:

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Hi mate :2thumbsup:


African Americans were slaves, the actual settelers of Ameica were European, or basically WASP's, dont take that as a KKK ideology btw, basically anyone who isnt a muslim can be American ok :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by King Ragnar

basically anyone who isnt a muslim can be American ok

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Again - why?

Because muslims preach hate and dont like the west thus they should be not allowed to live in any country int he west.

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Originally Posted by King Ragnar

Because muslims preach hate and dont like the west thus they should be not allowed to live in any country int he west.

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Considering the muslims who are posting here, I would say that your statement is wrong.
Actually I would say that it is you who is preaching hate...

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Originally Posted by King Ragnar

African Americans were slaves, the actual settelers of Ameica were European, or basically WASP's, dont take that as a KKK ideology btw, basically anyone who isnt a muslim can be American ok :2thumbsup:

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Oh, I think you'll find the KKK much more consistent and left-wing than your viewpoints.

You defined an American as someone of European 'disent' (by which I take it you meant descent, as in having had a European ancestor, rather than dissent as in having a European argument - both would be a valid position :smile:)

So, I ask again, regardless of their provenance, are African-Americans, American?

Since you restrict to WASPs and are keen on citizenship based on religion, what about Catholic Americans?

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Look once again anyone can be american apart from muslims and to make ser Clergane happy its because i dislike them and their religion, so there now you can ban me for saying i dislike something.

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Look once again anyone can be american apart from muslims and to make ser Clergane happy its because i dislike them and their religion, so there now you can ban me for saying i dislike something.

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Well, I'm sure the USA is grateful for your permission to grant citizenship. :laugh4:

I can't speak for Ser Clegane, but I always feel the best way to deal with racists is to let them embarrass themselves, as you have done time after time.

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who says im racist, if a muslim preaches hate, he is not racist, if a muslim kills civilians he is a hero, yet when i say i dislike a religion im racist, sure

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who says im racist, if a muslim preaches hate, he is not racist, if a muslim kills civilians he is a hero, yet when i say i dislike a religion im racist, sure

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Are you angry ?

Yes Very

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who says im racist, if a muslim preaches hate, he is not racist, if a muslim kills civilians he is a hero, yet when i say i dislike a religion im racist, sure

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No, if a Muslim preaches hate, he is a hatemongeror, if a Muslim kills civilians, he is a terrorist...

Muslims actually get the poopy end of the stick in many cases...

This is the vibe I get from the mainstream view...

Honestly... :rolleyes:

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who says im racist, if a muslim preaches hate, he is not racist, if a muslim kills civilians he is a hero, yet when i say i dislike a religion im racist, sure

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What about a muslim who preaches peace, or a muslim who saves lives as a doctor? Or a muslim who serves in your Army, helping defend your sorry ass?

Well by all means create a division int he army full of muslims and just sacrifice them for their fellow muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, Muslims preaching peace, where i havent seen it any where. your joking right?

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Well by all means create a division int he army full of muslims and just sacrifice them for their fellow muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, Muslims preaching peace, where i havent seen it any where. your joking right?

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Would you plan to give this sacrificial division any weaponry or can't they be trusted? Maybe just send them to their deaths with some pointy sticks? :charge:

As for peace, here's one for starters. You've heard of the Quakers, right?

Or maybe this helps?

I'm sure you get the drift - I won't expect you to do any actual reading. Maybe you ought to try talking to a Muslim or two.

Nah. Stupid idea. :rolleyes:

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Yes Very

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Do you feel unable to do anything about the problem and does this add to your feelings of anger ?

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I'm sure you get the drift - I won't expect you to do any actual reading. Maybe you ought to try talking to a Muslim or two.

Nah. Stupid idea. :rolleyes:

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No chance mate, thankfully i dont live down south or in a big city where they are all over, im happy in my little town without them and dont plan on speaking to any of them in my life time unless completely neccessary.

Yes pritty much Whyidie, i see my country ont he decline with all these muslims and terrorist, you know the big solution could be just to get all muslims out the country pull out of any country int he middle east and just get on with ourselves then we would have no bombings etc.

See the problem that people have with you are your views...

You say terrible things about Muslims, and justify this by your "dislike" of Islam...

Here is your first problem, does disliking Islam give you a reason to "dislike" (for some reason I view this as an understatement) all Muslims?

For example, I have mild philosophical qualms with homosexuality, yet never in my life would I go "oMg!1! dIe U f4Gz!1! lolll!l1l1l" or hurl similar invective. I would never consider myself to "hate homosexuals".

Also, seeing as you have not elaborated on the reasons why you dislike Islam, one is tempted to think that you simply harbor hate for no good reason...

If you were to politely and intelligently list your problems with Islam in a discussion, I am sure nobody would think you are a racist...

He's been reading too many of Shadey's posts. :laugh4:
Don't believe everything you read in the Backroom mate.

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Originally Posted by King Ragnar

Yes pritty much Whyidie, i see my country ont he decline with all these muslims and terrorist, you know the big solution could be just to get all muslims out the country pull out of any country int he middle east and just get on with ourselves then we would have no bombings etc.

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But dear, cuddly Ragnar, you might remember that you used to have bombings all the time, much nastier, much more frequent - all from my lot across the water.

Not a muslim amongst 'em, all good fine upstanding Christians.

What's the big plan now? :inquisitive:

Kick the Irish out duh ~D

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Look once again anyone can be american apart from muslims and to make ser Clergane happy its because i dislike them and their religion, so there now you can ban me for saying i dislike something.

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Racism Alert.. Ooops! :idea2: