Rape?! 3 Months Curfew for You!

Wait, wait, contain your rage.

The youth who raped a 12 year old girl while threatening her with a knife also got 2 years of supervision and an electronic tag. Not enough, you say?
Well, he will also have to sign "the sex offenders' register" for two years!

Obviously an adequte punishment, especially considering his curfew is from 8pm to 7am and he raped the girl in the afternoon.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/5246612.stm

I'm sure the festering pile of human filth will learn his lesson. No going out past 8pm for three whole months! With these harsh punishments, it's a wonder there's still crime in Britain.

And who knows? Maybe the justice system will ease off it's hard treatment if he doesn't get caught breaking curfew and give him a shiny new Xbox 360. That'll send him the right message.

Well. Sarcasm's over and I've got a question: is this symbolic of where the justice system is going in britain? Is this a normal sentencing case or very extrordinary? Would the current trend support a move towards this as the norm? Is Britain part of a world conspiracy to lure all the crooks in the world there and then lock them in?

Crazed Rabbit

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Well. Sarcasm's over and I've got a question: is this symbolic of where the justice system is going in britain? Is this a normal sentencing case or very extrordinary? Would the current trend support a move towards this as the norm? Is Britain part of a world conspiracy to lure all the crooks in the world there and then lock them in?

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No.

It's sickening. Shoot the youth. :no:

what!!! all of them? :inquisitive:

Why not? Problem solved.

Yes, adult punishments for fourteen year old children are exactly what the British justice system needs. Give me a break.

Call me crazy, but I think attempting to dissuade this young man from maintaining his current life course, while there is still time, is probably going to be more productive than banging him up.

BKS, I'm not advocating 20 years jail for him.

But a slap on the wrist and no jail time, not even a month in juvy, is not going to send the right message. He's not going to be dissuaded at all when he gets no punishment, nothing to tell him that doing this will result in punishment for him. Heck, he's not even getting any 'rehabilitation'.

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That's good.

Crazed Rabbit

On the other hand, he himself is not being taught to take the consequences of his actions. There has to be a compromise where he has a serious punishment for a very serious crime without being locked up with adults.

You don't care for others...why should we care about you?:inquisitive:

Let the victim and their family pick the punishment.

No punishment at all. Or demanding an apology... Fine

Paralyze him or kill him... Fine


Why should someone else pick the punishment for a crime that has had no effect on them. It makes no sense!

What is needed is corporal punishment. 80 lashes would do him good.

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What is needed is corporal punishment. 80 lashes would do him good.

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80 lashes can very well kill a human being. All depending on what type of lash and how it is done

On the subject of rape as a suitable punishment... I believe that an eye for an eye does just fine. When he goes to court, say... yeah... 3 months with an ankle bracelet or whatever. And then secretly send out the biggest strongest gayest Mother****** To pull him into a dark alley and teach him what rape is really all about.

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Why should someone else pick the punishment for a crime that has had no effect on them. It makes no sense!

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Err, that's why its called "justice" rather than "revenge", Caesar.

To answer rabbits qu, notwithstanding BKS's generally well made point, this sentence does seem very odd. Apart from the rape, carrying a knife in public is meant to be a mandatory 2 year sentence (mind you we recently established that I am not the worlds greatest expert on criminal law, but I tink that's right).

Trouble is the story doesn't really give us the information we need. The defendant might have been an educationally subnormal child who has himself been a sex abuse victim, who was responding well to therapy, who knows?

The Rabbit will be pleased to hear that the prosecuting authorities can appeal agaisnt unduly lenient sentences though, so justice will be done if the judge has got it wrong.

Revenge usually is justice. as long as you don't take to far.

If the family wanted to kill him for that I would be fine with it.

If the kid accidentally bumped into her and she fell and broke something....killing is a little to far:help:



Another thing I don't get is why aren't we inventive with our punishments anymore (justice is punishment in most cases imo)

If we can't let the family decide....why not the criminal?


"five years in jail or we can break your knee caps with a hammer, what'd ya' think mister pick pocket":laugh4:



But when it comes down to it we all know we'll never get real justice.

Ceasar have you ever thought of moving to Saudi Arabia, or possibly Iran, I am sure you would find their attitudes to criminal justice very much in line with your own?

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Yes, adult punishments for fourteen year old children are exactly what the British justice system needs. Give me a break.

Call me crazy, but I think attempting to dissuade this young man from maintaining his current life course, while there is still time, is probably going to be more productive than banging him up.

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I see why I don't need to post here anymore, BKS does it all for me!

Very well put post if I do say so myself.

How does one dissuade these little "rogues"? And if they still reoffend, at what point does something get done about it?

Effectively doing nothing but some "rehabilitation" shows that there is no penalty to breaking the law. if you want something - take it! Worst case scanario you have to give it back - eventually.

Or do we wait until they're 18, and then decide that the fun is over after 4 years?

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Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

How does one dissuade these little "rogues"? And if they still reoffend, at what point does something get done about it?

Effectively doing nothing but some "rehabilitation" shows that there is no penalty to breaking the law. if you want something - take it! Worst case scanario you have to give it back - eventually.

Or do we wait until they're 18, and then decide that the fun is over after 4 years?

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And by locking children up in prisons / prison like environments really helps? If you lock them up are you going to try and continue their education they are missing? Are you going to help them develop through the difficult time of adolescence or just throw away the key? The fact remains even if you dump these kids into prisons you are still going to have to rehabilitate them in some form or other anyway, what you have to confront is not whether rehabilitation is needed but where it is best carried out.

In most cases that will be in safe environments yes, but places where the children can still feel part of society and have proper interaction with family and friends as well as social workers etc. Prison does not help this. With repeat youth offenders it might be that if they are not responding to this first port of call you put them in a prison type area away from society, but that is not the best answer or the first.

When he'll get out of jail, he'll rape 5 girls of the same age, so he can get his old pleasure back. Then, he'd get shot or back to jail, where he belongs, and where he loves. :no:

Most of the people who go to jail and get out of there don't know what to do with their lives, so they do something bad to come back in jail. :skull: