Senate motions, Summer 255 - PART I

This poll is for players in the Will of the Senate PBM only.

Text of motions:

Motion #11.00: The Senate instructs the seaborne invasion of North Afrika with at least two Consular sized armies.
Proposed: Manius Coruncanius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius, Quintus Libo

Motion #11.01: The Senate instructs that the invasion of North Afrika have the targets of Carthago and Hadrumentum as a minimum. The Senate will not instruct further due to the issue of Tactical Variance.
Proposed: Manius Coruncanius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius , Flavius Pacuvius, Valerius Paullus, Quintus Libo

Motion #11.02: The Senate calls for the positioning of a Legion or other assembled force to “face off” against the Iberian incursion – this is not authorisation to initiate hostile activity but to show Iberia how seriously we take such unwarranted actions and allow them the chance to withdraw with honour to their own lands.
Proposed: Manius Coruncanius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius, Quintus Libo

Motion #11.03: The Senate instructs, when funds permit, the construction of and manning of fortifications to prevent incursions by the Iberians.
Proposed: Manius Coruncanius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius

Motion #11.04: Byzantion is to be held against all odds and to the last man.
Proposed: Manius Coruncanius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius, Quintus Libo, Servius Aemilius

Motion 11.6 : We will attempt an amphibious invasion of Rhodes during this term.
Proposed: Lucius Aemilius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius, Valerius Paullus, Tiberius Coruncanius, Quintus Libo, Servius Aemilius

Motion 11.7: We will extend citizenship (i.e. build citizenship building) to the cities of Capua and Ancona during this consul's term.
Proposed: Lucius Aemilius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius, Valerius Paullus, Servius Aemilius

Motion 11.8: We will not extend our borders in Europe during this consul's term, except for Maronia
Proposed: Lucius Aemilius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius

Motion 11.10: We will not try to hold on to Nicomedia and Prusa
Proposed: Lucius Aemilius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius, Valerius Paullus

Motion 11.11: We will repopulate our Italian cities using enslavement and governors. Any conquered city with a population over 4000 souls is to be enslaved after making sure that only the cities that are depopulated (like Corfinium) have governors inside them.
Proposed: Lucius Aemilius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius, Quintus Libo

Motion 11.12: We will attempt to conquer Vicus Marcomanii and Vicus Goth, if the Germans have not done so, and give them to our allies, the Germans. We will not attack an Iberian-held town while we are not at war with them (Vicus Goth is held by Iberia).
Proposed: Lucius Aemilius
Seconded: Marcellus Aemilius, Flavius Pacuvius, Quintus Libo

Motion 11.13: This Senate recognises that the Seleucia will relentlessly attack the Republic with large armies. However, it notes that the distance between Maronia and Byzantion makes it impractical to defend them with just one army. Consequently, it so instructs the First Consul to work towards establishing two Consular sized armies to hold against Seleucia, each with a chirurgeon.
Proposed: Numerius Aureolus
Seconded: Manius Coruncanius, Augustus Sempronius

Motion 11.14: This house requires the expulsion of Carthaginian armies from Sardinia and Melite, prior to landing a Consular army in Africa.
Proposed: Numerius Aureolus
Seconded: Manius Coruncanius, Augustus Sempronius, Decivs Laevinivs

Motion 11.16 The praetorian army under the command of senator Servius Aemilius will be severely outnumbered, and therefore requests the right to purchase between 4 and 8 mercenary units following the fall of Lepcis Magna.
Proposed: Servius Aemilius
Seconded: Decivs Laevinivs, Cornelius Saturnius

The results of the voting are as follows:

PASSED MOTIONS

Motion 11.0: The Senate instructs the seaborne invasion of North Afrika with at least two Consular sized armies.
For: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
PASSED

Motion 11.1: The Senate instructs that the invasion of North Afrika have the targets of Carthago and Hadrumentum as a minimum. The Senate will not instruct further due to the issue of Tactical Variance.
For: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), FLYdude (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
PASSED

Motion 11.2: The Senate calls for the positioning of a Legion or other assembled force to ?face off? against the Iberian incursion ? this is not authorisation to initiate hostile activity but to show Iberia how seriously we take such unwarranted actions and allow them the chance to withdraw with honour to their own lands.
For: Braden, Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), FLYdude (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against: Death the destroyer of worlds (+5)
PASSED

Motion 11.3: The Senate instructs, when funds permit, the construction of and manning of fortifications to prevent incursions by the Iberians.
For: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), FLYdude (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1)
Against: econ21 (+5), Wonderland (+4)
PASSED

Motion 11.4: Byzantion is to be held against all odds and to the last man.
For: Braden, Dutch_guy (+2), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, TinCow (+5), Wonderland (+4)
Against: Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), econ21 (+5), Stonecold (+1), Tricky Lady (+1)
PASSED 20 to 16

Motion 11.6 : We will attempt an amphibious invasion of Rhodes during this term.
For: Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), FLYdude (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against: Braden, Stonecold (+1)
PASSED

Motion 11.7: [I]We will extend citizenship (i.e. build citizenship building) to
For: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against: econ21 (+5), Glaucus (+1)
PASSED

Motion 11.8: We will not extend our borders in Europe during this consul's term, except for Maronia
For: Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against: Braden, econ21 (+5), FLYdude (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan
PASSED 24 to 18

Motion 11.10: We will not try to hold on to Nicomedia and Prusa
For: Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1)
Against: Braden, econ21 (+5), Glaucus (+1)
PASSED

Motion 11.11: We will repopulate our Italian cities using enslavement and governors. Any conquered city with a population over 4000 souls is to be enslaved after making sure that only the cities that are depopulated (like Corfinium) have governors inside them.
For: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), FLYdude (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against:
PASSED

Motion 11.13: This Senate recognises that the Seleucia will relentlessly attack the Republic with large armies. However, it notes that the distance between Maronia and Byzantion makes it impractical to defend them with just one army. Consequently, it so instructs the First Consul to work towards establishing two Consular sized armies to hold against Seleucia, each with a chirurgeon.
For: Braden, Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), FLYdude (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against: Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Tricky Lady (+1)
PASSED

Motion 11.16 The praetorian army under the command of senator Servius Aemilius will be severely outnumbered, and therefore requests the right to purchase between 4 and 8 mercenary units following the fall of Lepcis Magna.
For: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against: econ21 (+5), Glaucus (+1)
PASSED

Motion 11.19:This house requires that any campaign in Carthaginian territory in Africa be aimed at permanent occupation, not raiding and subsequent abandonment.
For: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), FLYdude (+5), Glaucus (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against:
PASSED

Constitutional Amendment 11.B : If there are conflicting motions, the one with the most votes in favour of them is the motion that supersedes the other. At the moment it is the order in which votes have been proposed. This amendment itself requires 2/3 of the votes to pass, and if it passes will be in effect over the motions voted on this session and into the future.
For: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Lucjan, Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against: FLYdude (+5)
PASSEDGeneralHankerchief (+1)


FAILED MOTIONS

Motion 11.12: We will attempt to conquer Vicus Marcomanii and Vicus Goth, if the Germans have not done so, and give them to our allies, the Germans. We will not attack an Iberian-held town while we are not at war with them (Vicus Goth is held by Iberia).
For: Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), Glaucus (+1), Tricky Lady (+1)
Against: Braden, econ21 (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Lucjan, TinCow (+5)
FAILED 13 to 16

Motion 11.14: This house requires the expulsion of Carthaginian armies from Sardinia and Melite, prior to landing a Consular army in Africa.
For: Braden, econ21 (+5), Stonecold (+1)
Against: Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), FLYdude (+5), GeneralHankerchief (+1), Glaucus (+1), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
FAILED

Motion 11.18: The Consul must give Viberia to any nation that will accept it before ending his first turn, including hostile nations such as Thrace. If a simple gift of the territory is not enough to immediately dispose of the city, the Consul may add as much money as he deems necessary to the deal.
For: GeneralHankerchief (+1), Stonecold (+1), TinCow (+5), Tricky Lady (+1), Wonderland (+4)
Against: Braden, Death the destroyer of worlds (+5), Dutch_guy (+2), econ21 (+5), Lucjan
FAILED 17 to 17