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Any thoughts on the results from Mecklenburg-Vorpommern ?
Does the election of *** representatives to add to those *** members previously elected in Saxony show that people are really really dumb , or that those living in deprived areas (especially deprived rural areas where their vote reached over 20% in some villages) are desperate for any sort of answer offered , even if the answer offered is something that any rational person would find distateful or down right disgusting .
As ever, Tribes' you make me work to reply to your posts! :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
The best source I could find was this.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Whereas it is deeply unpleasant that the far-right appears to be making some gains, the 7.2% of the regional vote appears to be in line with other European countries experiencing social exclusion voting (BNP in the UK for example). These people get seats and then embarrass themselves - and I think having at least someone to vote for defuses a bit of the anger some of the ill-educated disenfranchised feel - and allows mainstream politicians to try and debate the futility of the far-right solutions. (And maybe make sure the mainstream remembers that there are minorities of people who do feel so excluded that they will vote for the far-right eejits).
This final paragraph highlights the real impact, methinks:
Disturbing, but not frightening - a wake-up call for the mainstream to do better.Quote:
No far-right parties have made an impact at the national level. The NPD won just 1.6 percent of the vote in last year's federal vote, far below what parties like France's National Front have registered.
I'm not the least worried.
I never noticed any effect of such a minority.
The reason for this is most likely that people feel like the government doesn't care about the people and wants only their money.
For most families the costs raise every year and companies also help with that. Not to mention that having a health insurance is compulsory and while those insurance companies want more money all the time, they pay a lot less.
People, me included, just wonder where all the money goes since almost none of it is returned.
While I, having had the pleasure of going to a humanistic high school and talking about Nazis until I couldn't hear it anymore, would never vote for them, other people may become more radical in order to solve their own problems(I lately had some discussions with my dad who sometimes seems to turn more radical the less money he gets).
I personally do not know how people in Germany can underestimate the far right in how dangerous they really are, but it looks like it still happens.
As ever, Tribes' you make me work to reply to your posts!
The best source I could find was this.
right , off to the sin bin with you Banquo , the source you posted contains the name of the group involved , if someone types that name into a search engine the might find the groups website .:oops: :2thumbsup:
Disturbing, but not frightening - a wake-up call for the mainstream to do better.
Yep a wake up call that the problem of the Ost Deutche is still to be sorted following re-unification , areas of social and economic deprivation are fertile breeding grounds for scummy ideologies .
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You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment. :wink2:
The Ost definately has some major problems despite everything that has been done. In my short stay here in Sachsen-Anhalt I've seen a number of old condemned buildings, despite the fact that I am in the sort of rural area that in my experience doesn't have many of these. And even the village I am in, Diesdorf, which is considered to be very well off and well maintained has at least one old condemned building with broken windows. Luckily everyone I've met besides two skinheads who heckled my host parents and I near the center of town despises the NPD.
The NAZIs had 13% of the Reichstag? Not a jab, I'm just trying to reinforce your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
People are leaving in the east, a well-known problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uesugi Kenshin
But considering you just got here and already got to know some skinheads sounds interesting since I cannot remember ever having had anything to do with Neo-Nazis(I assume by skinheads you mean you're sure that they were Neo-Nazis).
I don't know how much they had but I doubt they could just take over again like they did the last time. Even if noone in Germany would oppose them, we do have some neighbors and friends around us who might not just stand there and watch it happen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
According to the article on Wikipedia, the Nazi Party had 43.9% of the vote in the Reichstag elections of March 1933 - this was its peak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
It's lowest showing was in May 1928, at 2.6%.
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Originally Posted by Husar
Well I assume they were because they had shaved their heads, were blasting loud and bad music, and my host father said they were skinheads several times. I couldn't actually give any evidence besides his comments for them being anything but the usual variety of young male idiots though.
They could have been skinheads with a good dose of Ostalgie. Frankly, I 've been for a few weeks in the east and stayed in old eastern Berlin for more than a month (well, Friedrichstraße isn't that "east" but anyway), and I don't think I 've seen any Neonazis, although I had some extended sorties around the city for a long time even in the wee hours- yes, one could say they sleep early like a good soldier of the Reich oughts to. I think in the east you 're more likely to stumble upon homeless people; that is often a sad sight, but some seem to enjoy themselves, at least they did near Bahnhof Berlin Friedrichstraße hehQuote:
People are leaving in the east, a well-known problem.
But considering you just got here and already got to know some skinheads sounds interesting since I cannot remember ever having had anything to do with Neo-Nazis(I assume by skinheads you mean you're sure that they were Neo-Nazis).
I think you'll find most of the skinhead neo-nazis moved further east - to St Petersburg. :shame: