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Father bashed in 'Racist' attack
Children see father bashed in 'Nazi' attack
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A JEWISH man was racially abused then bashed in front of his two young children by a busload of country footballers drunk after a day at the races.
Victorian police are investigating the savage attack on Menachem Vorchheimer, 33, by players from the Ocean Grove Football Club.
Reading this I got rather down. :coffeenews: :shrug: ~:( I really don't like this kind of thing at all.
However reading on things got interesting.
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As the bus drove past, two men reached out the back window, grabbed Mr Vorchheimer's hat and skull cap and hurled more abuse.
A driver who saw the incident pulled in front of the bus and stopped it.
Mr Vorchheimer said the men threw one of his hats out the bus window but when he asked for the other hat he was attacked.
"I was pulled toward the open window and then punched by a right hand into my left eye by a passenger on the bus. I fell back and was in enormous pain."
I thought, wow a guy stepped in to help that was brave of him. :viking: :horn:
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"Meanwhile my kids are on the sidewalk crying and screaming," he said.
He said witnesses surrounded the bus and stopped it from moving.
Mr Vorchheimer said he sat in front of the bus and said. "You're not going 'til the police come."
When St Kilda police arrived they took details from the footballers and witnesses. They confirmed the men had been to Caulfield races.
Now that left a warm glow to see that a lot of people stepped in to stop this kind of behaviour. :coffeenews: ~:thumb: ~:pat:
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This is sick and wrong. What more is there to debate about?
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Originally Posted by Shaun
This is sick and wrong. What more is there to debate about?
It's about heartwarming not debate.
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So did the police actually arrest anybody?
Crazed Rabbit
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
So did the police actually arrest anybody?
Crazed Rabbit
Had it happened here the people that stopped the bus. Oh wait, the victim ain't white, scratch that.
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Had it happened here the people that stopped the bus. Oh wait, the victim ain't white, scratch that.
Poor Fragony , of course Mr Vorchheimer isn't white , he is Jewish , that ain't quite white is it :dizzy2:
You really like to nail your colours to the mast don't you .:stupido3:
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Originally Posted by Tribesman
Poor Fragony , of course Mr Vorchheimer isn't white , he is Jewish , that ain't quite white is it :dizzy2:
You really like to nail your colours to the mast don't you .:stupido3:
You tell me, if the victim wasn't jewish this thread wouldn't have existed. There are racist attacks on whites on daily bases, racist attacks by whites are a rarity, and for some reason much more evil.
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Originally Posted by Fragony
You tell me, if the victim wasn't jewish this thread wouldn't have existed. There are racist attacks on whites on daily bases, racist attacks by whites are a rarity, and for some reason much more evil.
I beg you pardon?
Firstly, as Tribesman already indicated, the "color" of the victim is not mentioned anywhere - chances are actually that he is "white" (but I guess it depends how you define "white")
Secondly, I would love to see some facts that back up your statement I put in bold.
On the original topic - kudos to the guy who first stepped in and stopped the bus, especially considering the fact that he did not only interfere with one thug but with a full busload of thugs :bow:
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Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
Secondly, I would love to see some facts that back up your statement I put in bold.
Oh please, no day goes by where someone (most of the time white girls and elders, cowards) isn't attacked by a gang of these poor socially excluded north-africans that are so horribly discriminated, are you really being serious here??
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Originally Posted by Fragony
are you really being serious here??
Actually I am serious (and again you do not present anything to back up your views).
I would also like to note that in the article presented by Pape (to pay respect to the courage of those who intervened, BTW), the victim was very likely "white" and the "racial profile" of the thugs was not even mentioned.
This of course did not stop you from stepping in to vent once again how "whites" suffer racial attacks from "non-whites" on a much more frequent base than the other way around while claiming that you only hear about the latter (and I feel compelled to repeat myself - without providing anything to back up your claim)
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Nazi's tend to be white, never noticed?
Nah I think I'll just stop, it's just of no use.
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A group on non-whites once attacked my white penis. I almost called the cops, but then i realized it wasn't racial discrimination, but rather a celebration of diversity.
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A year ago I read an article in Knack (a decent belgian quality magazine) about the situation of the north-african inhabitants in Sint-Jans-Molenbeek (part of Brussels).
The author noticed a serious degree of hatred towards the native, white belgians. The word "Flamand" (the inhabitants of the Northern part of Belgium), was considered an insult.
Just to say that racism does go both ways.
Imho though, the colour of the racists or the victims doesn't matter, racism is disgusting, period.
So what happened to the Jewish man is on the one hand very, very sad, on the other hand it's a good thing people disapprove such behaviour AND have the heart to take action.
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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
A year ago I read an article in Knack (a decent belgian quality magazine) about the situation of the north-african inhabitants in Sint-Jans-Molenbeek (part of Brussels).
The author noticed a serious degree of hatred towards the native, white belgians. The word "Flamand" (the inhabitants of the Northern part of Belgium), was considered an insult.
How about you tell Ser Clegane what is very likely to happen if you decide to take a little walk with your lovely wife there in the occupied zone.
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A celebration of diversity?
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We prefer to call it a masterclass in intercultural communication :laugh4:
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Firstly, as Tribesman already indicated, the "color" of the victim is not mentioned anywhere - chances are actually that he is "white" (but I guess it depends how you define "white")
It doesn't mention his skin colour , but the surname might be a bit of a givaway about his european backround , if if you get really stuck you can always do a colour comparison with the victims photo in the article Pape posted .
Alternatively people can just label others so as to fit with their particular racial/religeous predjudice , if their mind just happens to be ever so slightly faulty .:no:
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How about you tell Ser Clegane what is very likely to happen if you decide to take a little walk with your lovely wife there in the occupied zone.
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: too far gone , way to far .....sad isn't it .
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Originally Posted by Tribesman
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: too far gone , way to far .....sad isn't it .
Yes indeed, I would suggest you try it, you were going to give me a visit anyway and Belgium ain't that far.
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:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
That went completely over your head didn't it , :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Would you understand better if it was in [COLOR="DarkRed"]C[COLOR="darkred"]OLOUR .
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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
A group on non-whites once attacked my white penis. I almost called the cops, but then i realized it wasn't racial discrimination, but rather a celebration of diversity.
Strangly enough, I had the same thing happen to me back in my younger years. The non-white gang that attacked my genitals must have moved to Oklahoma. Although some would consider it "abuse" I found it to be a "celebration of diversity" as well. Maybe more research is required? MRD, I call upon you to research this for us and send me lots of video to review. Thanks...
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Reading the article, the football coach sounds like a spineless snake of a man. I'm glad the bystanders were made of better stuff. Kudos to the person who ran the bus off the road. :2thumbsup: And the victim, of course.
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Glad to hear it! It's always nice to hear when people stand up to these dumb jerks.
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Had it happened here the people that stopped the bus. Oh wait, the victim ain't white, scratch that.
If you're a witness to a crime, you're legally allowed to stop the culprit and hold him until the police arrives (with reasonable means of course, beating up a shoplifter is unsurprisingly not allowed)
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If you're a witness to a crime, you're legally allowed to stop the culprit and hold him until the police arrives
What !!!!!!!!!
you mean you don't have laws that stop citizens taking action based on the colour of the victims skin ?????? errrr...... you do live in the same Netherlands as Frag don't you :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Papewaio
Now that left a warm glow to see that a lot of people stepped in to stop this kind of behaviour. :coffeenews: ~:thumb: ~:pat:
Yes indeed
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I must agree with Fragony. Although can you really blame the immagrants. Imagine you are an immagrant and you move to a well off country where if you have you right amount of organazation and zeal you can get away with murder. Its a problem with modern white culture. Blacks can say there black and Mexicans can say there Mexican and proud. Hell we devote months to these peoples cultures but god forbid we say were white and proud or we want to celebrate our heritage. Then all of a sudden were racists.
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Pape mate I don't call that 'stepping in' - I'm not sure about the definition of it round your way but over here 'stepping in' is using your fists and actually getting physically involved. Its intervening on a minimum level at best as anyone should.
I 'stepped in' to help a mate once when I didn't need to but threw caution to the wind and suffered heavily for it.
Also he was hit the once, it was not a severe beating. Sometimes when you dealing with lads who had too much beer you give them the abuse back or the finger. Don't get out and with no sense at all and demand something done from the bus driver. It really is daft. The bloke had kids with him, what was he thinking? The kids probably didn't care about the shouting but sure as hell didn't want dad pulling up and argueing with drunken footie lads. Why didn't he get the license plate or something like that? He had responsibility as his kids were with him. He should have laughed it off and moved on. The situation was a no win one for him which was bound to end in tears in some way another.
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To step into a conflict is to take sides, it may have ended with the hooligans attacking him or not. The point is he put his butt on the line for someone else.
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Had it happened here the people that stopped the bus. Oh wait, the victim ain't white, scratch that.
Now Mr Vorchheimer is about as white as a person can get. I fail to see how ones religion changes ones skin tone. He all likely hood given that the attackers were aussie rules players, the vast majority of whom are white, the attackers where white as well.
The attack was racist but it wasn't based on skin tone. I'm sure if the victim had no religious garb on him he wouldn't have been singled out for attack.
So enough of this cry baby self indulgent attitude of 'Oh but there are other colours that are racist'. Yes, yes there are racists of every skin tone... it is ironic but the thing that seems to be shared most between different groups is the ability to raise mindless idiots who can't see beyond the colour of a persons skin or their creed or their sex. And if I get any more good news stories of people stepping in and stopping thugs I will post them, regardless of the colours of the attackers or the victims or those brave enough to step in against the attackers.
The attackers were creeps and that saddened me. Unfortunately there are cretins everywhere. The main point of why I posted it though was the rapid response of the witnesses to the event.
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Originally Posted by Papewaio
Now that left a warm glow to see that a lot of people stepped in to stop this kind of behaviour. :coffeenews: ~:thumb: ~:pat:
I dunno, i still think its sad that this happened in the first place.:embarassed:
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but god forbid we say were white and proud or we want to celebrate our heritage. Then all of a sudden were racists.
Well if you say "I'm proud of my white heritage" you really are making an ass of yourself, because white ain't a heritage. Now if you say "I'm german and proud of it." I have rarely seen people being ridiculed for that. Hell the Greeks, the Irish, the Italians, the Russians, and the Poles in my town each take over the main street one day a year to celebrate their cultures. Their all as white as anyone else, and no one complains.
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Imagine you are an immagrant and you move to a well off country where if you have you right amount of organazation and zeal you can get away with murder.
The same can be said for whites. You remember a kid named Emmett Till? Show that there is a measurable difference between the way races are treated in the justice system that discriminates against whites
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Oh please, no day goes by where someone (most of the time white girls and elders, cowards) isn't attacked by a gang of these poor socially excluded north-africans that are so horribly discriminated, are you really being serious here??
Anyone else think this reeks of the Klu Klux Klan?
On the topic, cheers to the people who stopped the bus. People reaching out to do something good always makes the day better.
