Explicit Writing Democrat Scandal

Senator George Allen, (R-VA) has been having some campaign difficulties this year, in part stemming from gaffes on his part.

His challenger is James Webb, democrat and former Sec. of the Navy.

Allen has just unleashed a harsh press release dealing with Webb's books (he is an author, too) and their contents:
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WEBB’S WEIRD WORLD

The Author’s Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning Women

· Some of Webb’s writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.

· Many excellent books about the United States military and wartime service accomplish their purposes, and even win awards, without systematically demeaning women, and without dehumanizing women, men and even children.

· Webb’s novels disturbingly and consistently – indeed, almost uniformly – portray women as servile, subordinate, inept, incompetent, promiscuous, perverted, or some combination of these. In novel after novel, Webb assigns his female characters base, negative characteristics. In thousands of pages of fiction penned by Webb, there are few if any strong, admirable women or positive female role models.

Why does Jim Webb refuse to portray women in a respectful, positive light, whether in his non-fiction concerning their role in the military, or in his provocative novels? How can women trust him to represent their views in the Senate when chauvinistic attitudes and sexually exploitive references run throughout his fiction and non-fiction writings?

Most Virginians and Americans would find passages such as those below shocking, especially coming from the pen of someone who seeks the privilege of serving in the United States Senate, one of the highest offices in the land:

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The list is here:http://www.drudgereport.com/flashaw.htm

Something tells me this could be a factor in Republican Virginia.

Crazed Rabbit

I was liking the part about the guy with young, hard muscles(:yes: ); but from that point on, it went terribly, terribly wrong. :no:

I wouldnt vote for him!

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Originally Posted by Prince of the Poodles

I was liking the part about the guy with young, hard muscles(:yes: ); but from that point on, it went terribly, terribly wrong. :no:

I wouldnt vote for him!

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Sicko. This is a family forum.:laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Prince of the Poodles

I was liking the part about the guy with young, hard muscles(:yes: ); but from that point on, it went terribly, terribly wrong. :no:

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Congrats! You made it to my sig! :laugh4:

Well, it's better than a certain Republican who had an inappropriate AIM relationship with a male page.

And that just makes it perfectly alright, does it?

CR

Of course it makes it perfectly alright. If you don't like Mr. Webb's brand of fiction, don't read it. No harm, no foul. In any case, both Senate candidates running in Virginia this election are totally repulsive to me.

I wouldn't call Georges campaign problems "gaffes." The guy is a confirmed control freak prone to violence and a racist, even the Republicans abandoned him after his what, like 4th or 5th min scandal broke.

What's hilarious about this is that now voters can choose between a writer who shows a consistent perversion and disrespect of women in his works, or they can choose a spoiled racist punk from a rich football family.

Right about now would be the time for a 3rd party candidate with a few million laying around to enter that race

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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

What's hilarious about this is that now voters can choose between a writer who shows a consistent perversion and disrespect of women in his works, or they can choose a spoiled racist punk from a rich football family.

Right about now would be the time for a 3rd party candidate with a few million laying around to enter that race

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Don't I wish... :gah2:

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Originally Posted by AntiochusIII

Congrats! You made it to my sig! :laugh4:

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:laugh4:

Okay...
Uumm yeah, so moving on from stories about vaginal bannana slicing I just had a very nice cup of tea.

Well, the novels are certainly... disturbing. But, I think the more relevant issues would be his sexism with statements like the naval academy being a horny woman's dream. Although his fiction writing does seem to reinforce some of that. :no:

It could be worse. Some of our politicians have actually become successful authors after being imprisoned...

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Right about now would be the time for a 3rd party candidate with a few million laying around to enter that race

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And that's why you get no NORMAL people running for office over there. Whoever heard of a multi-millionaire that didn't have something in his closet that'd scare ordinary folk away?

Hey, CR. I'd recommend you add William S Burroughs to your reading list, he was (RIP) really into guns and freedom of speech etc etc.... you'd love his stuff .....

What the :inquisitive:

Proof that democrat voters don't read books?

It's fiction. georgy, on the other hand, is bona fide real life. I'm not gonna judge the guy, but this is what politics is all about, its about your past and how you live up to it. the deerhead and kwaanza may be the greatest political excuse of all time hahahah. but who knows about his opponent, we still have 2 weeks left, maybe his "fiction" will bring out some whistleblowers

Honestly, I don't care how fictional it is. It's sick and demented. 'Creating' child pornography using Photoshop is still pornography and writing about fathers giving their young sons hummers is sick, twisted fantasy. I'll resist the popular theme of comparing this to the Foley case, as that had ramifications of abuse of power and sexual harrassment. This on the other hand is truly pedophilia, as at least Foley's pages were of the age of consent in most states.

I don't care what anybody says. This Webb dude is a twisted sick creep and while I hate to say this, were I in Virginia, I would vote for George Allen. Actually, I'd probably vote Liberatarian. What a mess you folks have on your hands. :dizzy2:

You guys are a bunch of homophobs. Poor guy is just trying to open our eyes to the beauty of the world according to NAMBLA and GLADD. Shame on all of you intolerant bigots...

Well, if calling this disgusting trash what it is makes me a homophobe, I wear the title proudly. I don't know what on Earth would possess somebody to write something like that, but I do find it interesting that the MSM, knowing Webb is toast, is focusing more on Webb's misogyny in his writing, completely ignoring the 800 lb gorilla in the room.

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Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

You guys are a bunch of homophobs. Poor guy is just trying to open our eyes to the beauty of the world according to NAMBLA and GLADD. Shame on all of you intolerant bigots...

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Whoa... dont try and make that connection mister.

What that dude wrote was sick no matter what orientation you are.

WTF compels someone to write that ? Sounds like poor Webb is a modern day Republican in disguise. Now he just needs to learn how to blame the liberal elite for his problems and he'll be in like Flynn.

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Originally Posted by Prince of the Poodles

Whoa... dont try and make that connection mister.

What that dude wrote was sick no matter what orientation you are.

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Actually there is a connection. As you said in an earlier thread a person's sexuality is determined before birth. So, if homosexuality is not a chosen lifestyle, niether is pedifilia. Why are you degrading this poor misunderstood individual. Are you some sort of neanderthal? You have selective tolerance Sir, and you should be ashamed.:beam:

Riiiiight, any tolerance of homosexuality must also include tolerance of pedophilia. There's a logical progression for ya.

I haven't caught the news in the last 24 hours; has this torpedoed his candidacy? I can't imagine anyone being very jazzed about a candidate who writes explicit father/son sex scenes ...

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Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

Actually there is a connection. As you said in an earlier thread a person's sexuality is determined before birth. So, if homosexuality is not a chosen lifestyle, niether is pedifilia. Why are you degrading this poor misunderstood individual. Are you some sort of neanderthal? You have selective tolerance Sir, and you should be ashamed.:beam:

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That was pretty smart.

However, the difference is that homosexuality practiced between consenting adults does not hurt anyone.

Pedi does.

If I was attracted to kids I would just deal with it. I would not act on it nor glorify it in writings.

If this guy is a pedi, it sucks for him. He shouldnt be hated for that, but he should be condemned for supporting it through his writings.

However, I dont think he is. His other explicit stuff has a lot more to do with girls than guys, which puts them in a very negative light. :shame:

Just a question - does anybody know a bit more about the context of the quoted part of "Lost Soldiers".

It surprises me a bit that just based on the quoted sentences everybody seems to jump to the conclusion that Webb does not only endorse pedophilia but is a pedophile himself.

On a side note - I happen to like John Irving's books. I am sure that it would be an easy task to find similar quotes in his books (e.g., incest in "Hotel New Hampshire").
Does that make John Irving a disgusting person? Do I have to feel guilty for liking his books (no you don't have to answer, Dave ~;))

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Actually, I'd probably vote Liberatarian. What a mess you folks have on your hands. :dizzy2:

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Probably my choice this year. I can't really in good conscious vote for either of these two.

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Originally Posted by Prince of the Poodles

That was pretty smart.

However, the difference is that homosexuality practiced between consenting adults does not hurt anyone.

Pedi does.

If I was attracted to kids I would just deal with it. I would not act on it nor glorify it in writings.

If this guy is a pedi, it sucks for him. He shouldnt be hated for that, but he should be condemned for supporting it through his writings.

However, I dont think he is. His other explicit stuff has a lot more to do with girls than guys, which puts them in a very negative light. :shame:

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But the definition of pedifilia these days, according to Lemur and many democrats, is graphic conversation with 16 year olds over the internet (age of concent is 16 in DC BTW). This guy is writing this stuff, it hasn't been proven that he's acting out on this.
Prince, btw, who are you to judge this man. If two homosexual guys, 16 years old, have sex, isn't that consenting? Are you discreminating against youths now? Strange how you can get all pissed when someone discusses your sexual orientation but yet you call someone that has a different preferance than yours, they're "sick". Judge not lest ye be judged.:smash:
Remember, its not that we choose who we love, I believe I read that from a GLADD pamplet or something.

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Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

Do I have to feel guilty for liking his books (no you don't have to answer, Dave ~;))

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I don't think you should feel guilty, but I do think you need a good healthy spanking for being a naughty little mod. You know how I love it when you mention me by name....~:flirt:

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Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

But the definition of pedifilia these days, according to Lemur and many democrats, is graphic conversation with 16 year olds over the internet (age of concent is 16 in DC BTW).

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Wow, you're just slingin' the lemur's name all over the place. Here's what I've said on this issue, so's you can slander me correctly:

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Originally Posted by Lemur

I'm all for gay rights, but that has zero to do with this situation. I would feel the same way if Foley was having sex with a sixteen year old female. As for age of consent, I have never made any arguments on the subject, largely because I have no strong views on the matter. I don't think kids should be prosecuted for having sex with roughly same-aged kids (further direction should be on the parents, not the cops), but I do think there should be legal protection for kids from adults. The laws, as they stand, do a pretty good job.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children. The forbidden fruit that tempted this Congressman were teenagers, so technically his disorder would be known as ephebophilia, which is the sexual attraction to kids who've reached or passed puberty. A distinction that will be entirely lost on the public at large, but there it is.

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And most importantly:

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Who here really believes that dirty IMs were the (pardon the pun) long and the short of it? What about that message about remembering San Diego (or wherever)? Let's get real for a minute, shall we? The odds are extremely high that Foley found opportunity to do more than type with these lads. If all he had done was exchange cyber-fantasies, I doubt he would have resigned in such a hurry.

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There ya go, DevDave. If you're going to misrepresent me, please do so with accurate quotes.

Somewhat on topic - there recently was an interesting article on (the treatment of) pedophilia in Der Spiegel

"I Hate My Desires - They Make Me Sick"