ReligionStarter Trait Triggers Not Working - Help Please

I posted this over at the .com, but no one there can answer it. Maybe someone over here knows what the problem is...

I am trying to make it so that characters start out with more piety. I found this trait called ReligionStarter, which is a hidden trait that is supposed to give +3 piety. I raised that to +5. Here is the trait:

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Trait ReligionStarter
Characters general
Hidden

Level General_Religion
Description General_Religion_desc
EffectsDescription General_Religion_effects_desc
Threshold 1

Effect Piety 5

I just cannot get this trait to work properly. It works just fine when I type in the cheat code:

give_trait this ReligionStarter 1

When I put in the cheat code it gives +5 piety - as it should.

Can someone explain what is wrong with the trigger? Here are the triggers:

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Trigger Worth_of_Adoption_loyalty_1
WhenToTest OfferedForAdoption


Affects LoyaltyStarter 1 Chance 100
Affects Loyal 1 Chance 50
Affects ReligionStarter 1 Chance 100
Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 50

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Trigger Worthy_Of_Marriage_loyalty_1
WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage


Affects LoyaltyStarter 1 Chance 100
Affects Loyal 1 Chance 50
Affects ReligionStarter 1 Chance 100
Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 50

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Trigger fixed_birth1
WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge


Affects LoyaltyStarter 1 Chance 100
Affects ReligionStarter 1 Chance 100

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Trigger Lesser_General_Adoption_4_VnV_Trigger
WhenToTest LesserGeneralOfferedForAdoption


Affects LoyaltyStarter 1 Chance 100
Affects Loyal 1 Chance 50
Affects ReligionStarter 1 Chance 100
Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 50

Edit - This trait seems to work fine in the descr_strat.txt file.

Come to think of it, I don't think the LoyaltyStarter trait is working properly either.

Should work actually... hmm

I know it SHOULD work. After all, it works when you use the cheat code and it works when you put it into the descr_strat.txt file. But I have never seen it work for any adopted character, married character or character who comes of age. The same is true of the LoyaltyStarter.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by charlesolmsted

I know it SHOULD work. After all, it works when you use the cheat code and it works when you put it into the descr_strat.txt file. But I have never seen it work for any adopted character, married character or character who comes of age. The same is true of the LoyaltyStarter.

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Try adding Condition TrueCondition and see if that changes anything.
I don't have time to check it atm, might do tomorrow.

I will try that.

Edit - That didn't seem to do anything for me.

dopp cracked this particular nut. Change "Characters general" to "Characters family" (as per LoyaltyStarter), and it works :2thumbsup:.

Just FYI, trait "cultured" and trait "HasAdultress" also have "characters general".

I mailed CA about ReligionStarter (and the others) the first few days after they released the .TXT's, but not even a reply... The first patch had a whopping 0 changes to the ancillary/VnV system. Quality.

Thank you!